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What Are Creationists Afraid Of?
The New Individualist ^ | 1/2006 | Ed Hudgins

Posted on 01/26/2006 1:47:10 PM PST by jennyp

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Third, complexity does not imply “design.” One of Adam Smith’s most powerful insights, developed further by Friedrich Hayek, is that incredible complexity can emerge in society without a designer or planner, through “spontaneous order.” Hayek showed how in a free market the complex processes of producing and distributing goods and services to millions of individuals do not require socialist planners. Rather, individuals pursuing their own self-interest in a system governed by a few basic rules—property rights, voluntary exchange by contract—have produced all the vast riches of the Western world.

Many creationists who are on the political Right understand the logic of this insight with respect to economic complexity. Why, then, is it such a stretch for them to appreciate that the complexity we find in the physical world—the optic nerve, for example—can emerge over millions of years under the rule of natural laws that govern genetic mutations and the adaptability of life forms to changing environments? It is certainly curious that many conservative creationists do not appreciate that the same insights that show the futility of a state-designed economy also show the irrelevance of an “intelligently designed” universe.

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Evolution: A Communist Plot?

Yet another fear causes creationists to reject the findings of science.

Many early proponents of science and evolution were on the political Left. For example, the Humanist Manifesto of 1933 affirmed support for evolution and the scientific approach. But its article fourteen stated: “The humanists are firmly convinced that existing acquisitive and profit-motivated society has shown itself to be inadequate and that a radical change in methods, controls, and motives must be instituted. A socialized and cooperative economic order must be established to the end that the equitable distribution of the means of life be possible.”

Subsequent humanist manifestos in 1973 and 2000 went lighter on the explicit socialism but still endorsed, along with a critical approach to knowledge, the kind of welfare-state democracy and internationalism rejected by conservatives. The unfortunate historical association of science and socialism is based in part on the erroneous conviction that if humans can use scientific knowledge to design machines and technology, why not an entire economy?

Further, many supporters of evolution were or appeared to be value-relativists or subjectivists. For example, Clarence Darrow, who defended Scopes in the “monkey trial” eight decades ago, also defended Nathan Leopold and Richard Loeb. These two young amoralists pictured themselves as supermen above conventional morality; they decided to commit the perfect crime and killed a fourteen-year-old boy. Darrow offered the jury the standard liberal excuses for the atrocity. He argued that the killers were under the influence of Nietzschean philosophy, and that to give them the death penalty would hurt their surviving families. “I am pleading for life, understanding, charity, kindness, and the infinite mercy that considers all,” he said. “I am pleading that we overcome cruelty with kindness and hatred with love.” This is the sort of abrogation of personal responsibility, denial of moral culpability, and rejection of the principle of justice that offends religious conservatives—in fact, every moral individual, religious or atheist.

In addition, nearly all agnostics and atheists accept the validity of evolution. Creationists, as religious fundamentalists, therefore see evolution and atheism tied together to destroy the basis of morality. For one thing, evolution seems to erase the distinction between humans and animals. Animals are driven by instincts; they are not responsible for their actions. So we don’t blame cats for killing mice, lions for killing antelope, or orca whales for killing seals. It’s what they do. They follow instincts to satisfy urges to eat and procreate. But if human beings evolved from lower animals, then we might be merely animals—and so there would be no basis for morality. In which case, anything goes.

To religious fundamentalists, then, agnostics and atheists must be value-relativists and subjectivists. Whether they accept evolution because they reject a belief in God, or reject a belief in God because they accept evolution, is immaterial: the two beliefs are associated, just as are creationism and theism. By this view, the only firm basis for morality is the divine edicts of a god.

This reflects the creationists’ fundamental misunderstanding of the nature of morality.

Morality from Man’s Nature

We humans are what we are today regardless of whether we evolved, were created, or were intelligently designed. We have certain characteristics that define our nature.

We are Homo sapiens. Unlike lower animals, we have a rational capacity, an ability to fully, conceptually understand the world around us. We are self-conscious. We are the animal that knows—and knows that he knows. We do not survive automatically, by instinct, but must exercise the virtue of rationality. We must think. We must discover how to acquire food—through hunting or planting—how to make shelters, how to invent medicines. And to acquire such knowledge, we must adopt a rational methodology: science.

Furthermore, our thinking does not occur automatically. We have free will and must choose to think, to focus our minds, to be honest rather than to evade facts that make us uncomfortable—evolution, for example—because reality is what it is, whether we like it or acknowledge it or not.

But we humans do not exercise our minds and our wills for mere physical survival. We have a capacity for a joy and flourishing far beyond the mere sensual pleasures experienced by lower animals. Such happiness comes from planning our long-term goals, challenging ourselves, calling on the best within us, and achieving those goals—whether we seek to nurture a business to profitability or a child to adulthood, whether we seek to create a poem or a business plan, whether we seek to design a building or to lay the bricks for its foundation.

But our most important creation is our moral character, the habits and attitudes that govern our actions. A good character helps us to be happy, a bad one guarantees us misery. And what guides us in creating such a character? What tells us how we should deal with our fellow humans?

A code of values, derived from our nature and requirements as rational, responsible creatures possessing free will.

We need not fear that with evolution, or without a god, there is no basis for ethics. There is an objective basis for ethics, but it does not reside in the heavens. It arises from our own human nature and its objective requirements.

Creationists and advocates of intelligent design come to their beliefs in part through honest errors and in part from evasions of facts and close-minded dogmatism. But we should appreciate that one of their motivations might be a proper rejection of value-relativism, and a mistaken belief that acceptance of divine revelation is the only moral alternative.

If we can demonstrate to them that the basis for ethics lies in our nature as rational, volitional creatures, then perhaps we can also reassure them that men can indeed have morality—yet never fear to use that wondrous capacity which allows us to understand our own origins, the world around us, and the moral nature within us.

Edward Hudgins is the Executive Director of The Objectivist Center.


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To: Giant Conservative
Would you be willing to entertain the possibility that all of science is of divine design designed in such a way as to look as though it was totally undesigned, therefore making the designer look quite foolish countless times throughout evolutionary history?
941 posted on 01/28/2006 9:07:17 PM PST by whattajoke
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To: whattajoke

Isn't science innately logical, and therefor something that would reflect quite well on the nature of its design?


942 posted on 01/28/2006 9:10:01 PM PST by Giant Conservative
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To: Giant Conservative

I am a believer in the Bible and therefor I do believe in science. But to answer the question 6000-12000 years.


943 posted on 01/28/2006 9:11:07 PM PST by Creationist (If the earth is old show me your proof. Salvation from the judgment of your sins is free.)
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To: Creationist

Do you believe that all humankind is directly descended from the man and the woman spoken of in the Genesis stories?


944 posted on 01/28/2006 9:14:02 PM PST by Giant Conservative
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To: whattajoke
This thread has become surreal placemarker.
945 posted on 01/28/2006 9:15:02 PM PST by whattajoke
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To: whattajoke

computer tells you are big synonymous words as well. They are real words. I use them to keep up with the pact, being a smartie pants without degrading.


946 posted on 01/28/2006 9:15:05 PM PST by Creationist (If the earth is old show me your proof. Salvation from the judgment of your sins is free.)
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To: Stultis
See, appropriately enough at Cafe Hayek, Smith and Darwin.

What a delightful blog that is!

947 posted on 01/28/2006 9:15:05 PM PST by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: your mind)
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To: Giant Conservative

Yes. Do you believe you are a scion from a monkey or sort?


948 posted on 01/28/2006 9:16:33 PM PST by Creationist (If the earth is old show me your proof. Salvation from the judgment of your sins is free.)
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To: Creationist
"Scion from a monkey"...no, I don't.

I believe that humankind is distinct from monkeykind.

949 posted on 01/28/2006 9:17:50 PM PST by Giant Conservative
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To: Creationist

You refuse to accept the fact that the earth is older than 6-12K years.

Attempting to be a "smartie pants" will not work in your case, I'm afraid.


950 posted on 01/28/2006 9:18:04 PM PST by whattajoke
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To: whattajoke

Isn't surreality the norm in crevo debates?


951 posted on 01/28/2006 9:18:53 PM PST by Giant Conservative
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To: All; Creationist
Do you believe you are a scion from a monkey or sort?

Say what? Is this secret code or something?
952 posted on 01/28/2006 9:20:10 PM PST by whattajoke
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To: jennyp

This article has zero substance. I can summarize it in two sentences: “Morals don’t have to come from God, and in fact they don’t. They come from man.” It doesn’t tell us anything.

Hudgins presumes to answer the most difficult problem in all of moral philosophy but fails to include a description of his answer. He rambles a bit about “rational capacity” and such, but gives not a speck of substance describing any basis for absolute morality independent of divine command.


953 posted on 01/28/2006 9:37:43 PM PST by reasonisfaith (The only way to become an atheist is by reverting to the infantile mindset.)
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To: whattajoke
Or is it you that refuses to believe that the earth is not older than 6000 to 12000 years. But I do not have to insult the person who believes otherwise in an attempt to facilitate my belief.
954 posted on 01/28/2006 9:52:47 PM PST by Creationist (If the earth is old show me your proof. Salvation from the judgment of your sins is free.)
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To: whattajoke

scion = decendant or heir


955 posted on 01/28/2006 9:54:46 PM PST by Creationist (If the earth is old show me your proof. Salvation from the judgment of your sins is free.)
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To: reasonisfaith
Morals don’t have to come from God, and in fact they don’t. They come from man.”

That is a true evolutionary believer statement.

Yet the moral code of our Constitution original judicial system all came from the Bible whether you accept it or not.

If evolution is true why would any one want to have morals? If it is survival of the fittest would not the strongest of our ancestors just killed any one who was a threat? Why would they care about lying? Would not it be easier just to lie and care less of the implications it had on the weaker? Why would adultery matter? We could be like dogs and not have a mate for life. What is wrong with envy? So a few people get robbed of possessions. Why should you have respect for your parents you are the evolutionary superior are you not?

Knowledge does not equal wisdom.
956 posted on 01/28/2006 10:06:15 PM PST by Creationist (If the earth is old show me your proof. Salvation from the judgment of your sins is free.)
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To: Creationist
I do not have to insult the person who believes [the earth is older than 6000 years] in an attempt to facilitate my belief.

Well, you've got me there. I do insult any sentient adult in 2006 that adheres to the beliefs of 2000 year old desert nomads, with regards to the creation of the earth. I apologize in advance.
957 posted on 01/28/2006 10:16:03 PM PST by whattajoke
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To: Giant Conservative
I believe that humankind is distinct from monkeykind.

So you believe that the monkey kind came from a reptile kind and that came from a amphibian kind which came from a fish kind which came from a multi-celled kind which came from a one celled kind which came from amino acid kind which came from the product of rain falling on rocks in a oxygen free atmosphere for millions and millions of years?

So you believe you are a scion from a rock? Which was formed due to an explosion over 15 billion years ago.

Would that not make us related to nuclear explosions?

Or if it is the big expansion instead of explosion would we be related to gas?

Oversimplification.
958 posted on 01/28/2006 10:18:08 PM PST by Creationist (If the earth is old show me your proof. Salvation from the judgment of your sins is free.)
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To: Creationist

You might have misunderstood me. My point was that the guy who wrote the article thinks morals don’t come from God.

I am a man of faith. I know God makes the rules. And I agree that the precious liberties associated with our Constitution originate from Christianity.


959 posted on 01/28/2006 10:21:36 PM PST by reasonisfaith (The only way to become an atheist is by reverting to the infantile mindset.)
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To: Strategerist
The Fossil Record.

95% of all fossils are marine invertebrates, particularly shellfish
Of the remaining 5%, 95% are algae and plant fossils (4.75%).
95% of the remaining 0.25% consists of the other invertebrates including insects (0.2375%).
The remaining 0.0125% includes all vertebrates, mostly fish. 95% of the few land vertebrates consist of less than one bone. (for example, only about 1200 dinosaur skeletons have been found.) 95% of the mammal fossils were deposited during the Ice Age.

The fossil record is best understood as the result of a marine cataclysm that utterly annihilated the continents and the land dwellers (Genesis 7:18-24 II Peter 3:6)
form: The Young Earth by John D. Morris
960 posted on 01/28/2006 10:27:35 PM PST by Creationist (If the earth is old show me your proof. Salvation from the judgment of your sins is free.)
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