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To: snarks_when_bored

Another judge (an agent of the government) making an official government proclamation about what is and isn't religion.

And I thought the constitution forbid the GOVERNMENT from establishing religion. Judges seem to be free from this restriction, and rule all the time about what IS and ISN'T religion.

I'd feel pretty upset if some judge said a symbol of MY religion was acceptable because it wasn't REALLY a religion.


6 posted on 12/20/2005 7:57:39 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

The constitution doesn't say anything about practicing your religion in a public school.

I don't believe this judge said you can't go to the church of your choice and worship any way you choose. That's what the separation of church and state is all about, not teaching religious "theories" in science class.


16 posted on 12/20/2005 8:02:27 AM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Another judge (an agent of the government) making an official government proclamation about what is and isn't religion.

No. He decided what is and what is not science.
18 posted on 12/20/2005 8:03:33 AM PST by BikerNYC (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Another judge (an agent of the government) making an official government proclamation about what is and isn't religion.

Well, duh -- that is a necessary judicial function.

For example, if some clown in the federal pen declares that he just converted to a religion that requires him to dine on sirloin steak and pistachio ice cream every day and sues to be provided with those delicacies, then the judge is going to have to rule on whether or not this is a genuine religion or an excuse to pester the prison authorities. The same principle applies here.

46 posted on 12/20/2005 8:15:47 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Shall we debate here what is and what is not 'religion'? Resolved; a statement of faith, "I believe", is sufficient to establish a religion.

I believe in the precision and accuracy of my perception of the universe.


53 posted on 12/20/2005 8:18:51 AM PST by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
And I thought the constitution forbid the GOVERNMENT from establishing religion.

Nope, just Congress. The First Amendment:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

447 posted on 12/20/2005 10:34:17 AM PST by ericc4
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I'd feel pretty upset if some judge said a symbol of MY religion was acceptable because it wasn't REALLY a religion

But ID was never religion anyway, was it?. So no harm, no foul.

675 posted on 12/20/2005 12:00:32 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (so natural to mankind is intolerance in whatever they really care about - J S Mill)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

"And I thought the constitution forbid the GOVERNMENT from establishing religion. Judges seem to be free from this restriction, and rule all the time about what IS and ISN'T religion"

Exactly thank you for some form of rational thought here! Judgees/the Government do not establish religion and therefore that is why they have not allowed any fundamentalist group of any kind to insert it sidewind it if you will into PUBLIC SCHOOL Curriculum
I repeat PUBLIC SCHOOL CURRICULUM
that I pay for with my tax dollars

"I'd feel pretty upset if some judge said a symbol of MY religion was acceptable because it wasn't REALLY a religion."

Two things here.....Believing in Darwinian theory is not a religion or indication or symbol of one, not even of atheism as you surely will proport, ...and... if your faith or religion hinges on whether someone anyone says it is or is not a religion then you need to review your devotion to what you proportedly believe in.


2,184 posted on 12/22/2005 10:08:10 AM PST by radiolady (Freedom of Speech is essential to a free nation)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Absolutely, they know what religion is and is not!


2,562 posted on 12/23/2005 2:20:48 PM PST by GregoryFul
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