[donh]

Nothing cannot be simply empty space. You must have the absence of space and time and mass and energy. If you believe that something can come from this nothing, then you are being more a proponent of the supernatural than I am.

I am not an opponent of supernatural explanations. I am an opponent of supernatural science.

[unlearner]

"I am not an opponent of supernatural explanations. I am an opponent of supernatural science."

Between the two of us, you are the only one trying to make this into an issue of the supernatural. I have avoided any connotations of the supernatural in my assertion. Any inferences of the supernatural are philosophical.