Apparently, I made an argument that as of the civil war, the constition says ALL local governments must respect the 1st amendment. Nobody answers this argument terribly often, because it's pretty obvious.
Yes, that money from compulsory taxation does "go to the school anyway" : for salaries, maintenance, utilities, staff, administrative overhead, etc.
I didn't understand the point of this argument the first time you ran with it. How does this address the point that people of every religious pursuasion must pay taxes to support schools?
you seemed to advance the position that virtually ANY usage of public schools by any religious organization, constitutes an "Establishment of religion".
I expect it does. I'm just not willing to fight over something like a couple of kids using a classroom after hours. It doesn't piss me off like it does when school officials use their positions of authority and exclusive access to student ears, to push a private agenda the constitution forbids.
And you chopped off half of my statement again
Why is that a problem? Make more succinct statements, and I won't be able to do that.
Natural Sciences" i.e. implicity looking only at the natural world, not considering the supernatural. If one happens to use that working definition, then ether and phrenology were better "sciences" than ID.
As the defendants at Dover repeatedly pointed out, (in their case, lying, as it happened) ID does not insist on a supernatural explanation.
Endorsement need not invoke sanctions for rejection of what is endorsed; establishment presumably would.
Gee, what a consolation. Do you think the inquistion wasn't a Catholic organization in control of spain after it stopped burning spanish witches?
Most people today tend to use the word "sciences" when they mean "Natural Sciences" i.e. implicity looking only at the natural world, not considering the supernatural. If one happens to use that working definition, then ether and phrenology were better "sciences" than ID.
Oh, I don't think so. ID has, in my estimation, a far better chance of becoming a serious science theory, since ether and phrenology have pretty much been to bat, and failed their falsifiability tests. The odds on ID are just basically unknown.
if unintelligent extra-terrestrials seeded the earth, how does that fit under the rubric of "Intelligent" design?
Go back and look, I wasn't answering a question about ID.
ID's anemic cousin, panspermia, bears some promise.
Never heard of that, I'm sorry to say. (Told you the subject bored me!) ...do you have a link handy like Ichneumon tends to?
Why would you want a link if you are bored with the subject?
For now, nighty night.
Pleasant fights! :-)