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To: caffe

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=000D4FEC-7D5B-1D07-8E49809EC588EEDF&pageNumber=4&catID=2

[Thanks to the "list-o-links"]

From an article aptly titled "15 Answers to Creationist Nonsense "


"9. The Second Law of Thermodynamics says that systems must become more disordered over time. Living cells therefore could not have evolved from inanimate chemicals, and multicellular life could not have evolved from protozoa.

This argument derives from a misunderstanding of the Second Law. If it were valid, mineral crystals and snowflakes would also be impossible, because they, too, are complex structures that form spontaneously from disordered parts.

The Second Law actually states that the total entropy of a closed system (one that no energy or matter leaves or enters) cannot decrease. Entropy is a physical concept often casually described as disorder, but it differs significantly from the conversational use of the word.

More important, however, the Second Law permits parts of a system to decrease in entropy as long as other parts experience an offsetting increase. Thus, our planet as a whole can grow more complex because the sun pours heat and light onto it, and the greater entropy associated with the sun's nuclear fusion more than rebalances the scales. Simple organisms can fuel their rise toward complexity by consuming other forms of life and nonliving materials. "


2,234 posted on 12/22/2005 12:26:31 PM PST by 2nsdammit (By definition it's hard to get suicide bombers with experience.)
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To: 2nsdammit

If you check some of my later posts, i addressed some of this junk posing as science; I don't know anyone but evolutionists who bring up snowflakes or crystals as complex. Stop with the stupid comments.


2,377 posted on 12/22/2005 8:22:48 PM PST by caffe (D)
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To: 2nsdammit
and the greater entropy associated with the sun's nuclear fusion more than rebalances the scales

Just asking someone with experience in nuclear physics--is fusion entropically or energetically driven, anyway? (e.g. 2 hydrogens to 1 helium, you're losing several degrees of freedom...)

Cheers!

2,413 posted on 12/22/2005 9:26:04 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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