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To: jbloedow

This has been discussed to death. Science is about explanaining the natural universe. Science does not and cannot address the supernatural. Any explanation that invokes supernatural elements, including gods, is not science and it is dishonest to label it as such. It might be true, but that doesn't make it science. Complaining that you don't like the natualistic approach of science is simply purile whining.


2,085 posted on 12/21/2005 11:47:28 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio; jbloedow
The more YOU GUYS speak for science... the less it becomes.

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2,086 posted on 12/21/2005 11:51:03 PM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: Dimensio
Science is about explanaining the natural universe. Science does not and cannot address the supernatural. Any explanation that invokes supernatural elements, including gods, is not science and it is dishonest to label it as such. It might be true, but that doesn't make it science.

You're conflating Naturalism as an absolute philosophy and naturalism as a scientific techique.

Astrophysicists and cosmologists routinely speak about singularities, points in time and/or space in which the laws of nature appear not to have been in operation, at least not in any knowable or repeatable way. These folks would be fascinated to discover that they aren't doing science!!!

Stupidity aside, when a scientist who is willing to accept the possibility of singularities, or intelligent design, or divine creation, or even abrupt appearance encounters a situation which appears to fall into one of these categories, he is first going to make sure that this is what it appears to be -- SCIENTIFICALLY -- and then if it is, he will proceed to try to understand every other part of it or its consequences that are non-singularities.

So either you are ignorant or just obtuse, but it is perfectly possible for a rigorous naturalistic approach to science to coexist peacefully with the belief that there may be parts of Creation/Nature that are beyond the ability of science to describe.

2,196 posted on 12/22/2005 10:32:45 AM PST by jbloedow
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