"Ummm, that won't work. Some societies embrace murder. Societies don't define morality. "
Of course they do. Even when religion comes into question, it was invented by societies. I do not live in a society which embraces murder. I am a product of my own society. Further murder is logically wrong.
You mistakenly believe that morality proceeds only from religion. It does not. All things moralproceed from society. Religion also proceeds from society. This is why each society, historically, invents a religion for itself.
Were there a single deity in existence, we would have a single religion. We patently do not, even today. Looking back in history, we have as many religions as we have had societies.
Morality proceeds solely from society.
Morality proceeds solely from society.Precisely what you folks think. The ultimate liberal philosophy. Everything is OK if we say it is. We define right and wrong and therefore it is what we say it is. And we can change it anytime the wind blows.
That is how we got baby murder in this country. That is how we got slavery. That is how we get wealth redistribution.