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Intelligent Design case decided - Dover, Pennsylvania, School Board loses [Fox News Alert]
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| 12/20/05
Posted on 12/20/2005 7:54:38 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: js1138; CarolinaGuitarman; conservative blonde
Boy you guys are quick...before I could log off, I already got some answers..I guess, tomorrow, I will Google this, and find out some information pertaining to this story...thanks for at least presenting the alternative side to 'conservative blondes' story...
To: andysandmikesmom
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posted on
12/20/2005 4:48:10 PM PST
by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
To: andysandmikesmom
This is just something I have always known. If you go to www.discovery.org, I am sure you can write to someone there who can give you a source.
To: CarolinaGuitarman
Are you suggesting that red-haired Irishmen are a different species than black-haired Italians?
Good thing -- Otherwise, if we could mix them we'd have hot heads who want to conquer the world. :>)
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posted on
12/20/2005 4:49:05 PM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
To: NapkinUser
"Yes, this will reverse the decline in our government schools seen since about the time judges decided kids can't
prey in schools."
Haha, funniest typo ever!
To: snarks_when_bored
No surprise.
The Intelligent Design movement is a ridiculous attempt to fit Creationism in science courses.
The recent "evolution" case that bothered me is the court ruling a label in biology text books declaring evolution is a theory is somehow unconstitutional. That court went TOO FAR since the decal contained no false or religious statements, only simple fact that, as a theory, evolution should be studied, tested, investigated, challenged like all other scientific theories.
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posted on
12/20/2005 4:49:37 PM PST
by
newzjunkey
(Remember the less fortunate this season: "U.S. Marines Toys for Tots" "Salvation Army")
To: NapkinUser
It isn't. Even the Sixth Court realized that when the judge said that the ACLU's claim of Separation of Church and State had grown tiresome and that no such wall exists.
1,367
posted on
12/20/2005 4:49:48 PM PST
by
benjibrowder
(The government (at all levels) should not be involved in the education business.)
To: All
I'm surprised that there are so many atheists on this board.
1,368
posted on
12/20/2005 4:50:27 PM PST
by
NapkinUser
("Our troops have become the enemy." -Representative John P. Murtha, modern day Benedict Arnold.)
To: Ace of Spades
"I respect your beliefs. But faith is not fact."
If we are basing the appropriateness of teaching a curriculum on its being a fact, then it is incorrect to teach Darwin's Theory. It has always been a theory. There is no correlation between us and a supposed cosmic soup. There are large gaps in Darwin's fossil record, and I can't fathom why people are so reluctant to realize that.
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posted on
12/20/2005 4:50:49 PM PST
by
Ceewrighter
(O'er the land of the free and the Home of the brave!)
To: xzins
"Are you suggesting that red-haired Irishmen are a different species than black-haired Italians?
Good thing -- Otherwise, if we could mix them we'd have hot heads who want to conquer the world. :>)"
<< not a hothead who wants to conquer the world.
Just part of it. :)
(in case you didn't guess, I AM Irish/Italian)
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posted on
12/20/2005 4:50:58 PM PST
by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
To: newzjunkey
That court went TOO FAR since the decal contained no false or religious statements, only simple fact that, as a theory, evolution should be studied, tested, investigated, challenged like all other scientific theories.So then why doesn't the school district put stickers on all of the other textbooks mentioning that? The judge ruled that because they didn't do THAT, it was invalid. Did you read the ruling?
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posted on
12/20/2005 4:50:59 PM PST
by
ThinkPlease
(Fortune Favors the Bold!)
To: NapkinUser
"I'm surprised that there are so many atheists on this board"
How can you tell who the atheists are?
To: Fester Chugabrew
It is not as though intelligent design has no basis in reality. A good many examples can be set forth by virtue of human invention.IOW, no proof.
I do not consider proof to be the be-all and end-all of science. It is only one among many tools science can use to arrive at knowledge. If proof is all you expect of science, then you expect too much.
I do.
I expect that someone who makes absolute claims should provide the evidence that proves what they're saying is true.
Intelligent Design is all about faith, which by definition, is about believing in the absence of proof.
To: Ceewrighter
It had nothing to do with teaching Intel. Design in the curriculum.Which is one reason the judge may be overturned. Appeals courts are notoriously picky about the facts. If the judge stated that ID was being taught in his opinion, he will be overturned just like the guy in the Cobb County case will be overturned.
To: Ceewrighter
"If we are basing the appropriateness of teaching a curriculum on its being a fact, then it is incorrect to teach
Darwin's Theory science."
Fixed.
To: longshadow
A superb if utterly wasted effort. What the Dover trial shows superbly is how poorly the creationist "dummy dance" trick works in a court of law as opposed to an FR thread.
On an FR thread, creationists are never caught "misspeaking." For that matter, on an FR thread, creationists are never wrong on anything above the typo level. These seemingly amazing feats are accomplished by a simple, dishonest, bland denial accompanied by endless restatement, distraction, and evasion.
If I were a creationist with the accustomed habits of argument of those on the typical FR crevo threads, I would tremble to enter a court of law.
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posted on
12/20/2005 4:53:31 PM PST
by
VadeRetro
(Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
To: NapkinUser
They're the cream of the crop atheists: reasonable, intelligent, dedicated, mostly polite, erudite, and occasionally helpful in promoting conservative ideals.
To: Canard
Dangit.
I knew I screwed that word up, but didn't bother to change it because I was second-guessing myself.
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posted on
12/20/2005 4:54:28 PM PST
by
NapkinUser
("Our troops have become the enemy." -Representative John P. Murtha, modern day Benedict Arnold.)
To: ThinkPlease
The judge ruled that because they didn't do THAT, it was invalid.More reason for being overturned. It is not the business of a federal judge to decide which texts get stickers and which don't.
To: MineralMan
You are merciless. (But that one had it coming in spades.)
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posted on
12/20/2005 4:56:12 PM PST
by
VadeRetro
(Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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