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To: muir_redwoods

"Well, Russ, I can handle much more that you've dealt. I can explain it for you but I cannot understand it for you."

Let me try one more time to help *you* understand.

Evolutionists regularly assert that ID does not even qualify as a scientific theory because it is "unfalsifiable."

That claim is baloney. To illustrate that fact, I postulated the following hypothetical scenario. We're walking along the beach and we see the message, "E = MC^2" in large letters in the sand.

Now, suppose I said, "I'm pretty sure that message was put there by an intelligent being. I don't think it was the result of random winds or waters."

As an evolutionist, if you are consistent with your claim that ID is "unscientific" because it is "unfalsifiable," you would reply that my "theory of intelligent writing" is "unfalsifiable" and therefore wrong.

You then replied that this scenario is contrived because we already know the writing wasn't a random result. But HOW did we know that? We didn't see anyone write the message. The answer is that we know because we have COMMOM FRIGGIN' SENSE!

Do you get it now? You have common sense about the writing on the beach, but you apparently have none with regard to the definition of "science."

What in the world does it take to get through to you guys?


334 posted on 12/03/2005 9:59:01 PM PST by RussP
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To: RussP
"That claim is baloney. To illustrate that fact, I postulated the following hypothetical scenario. We're walking along the beach and we see the message, "E = MC^2" in large letters in the sand.

Now, suppose I said, "I'm pretty sure that message was put there by an intelligent being. I don't think it was the result of random winds or waters."

Okay, I'll tell you why your exampe is silly. If we saw the expression "E=MC^2" written on the sand we would recognize it as an expression written it the language common to about 50% of humanity and would know instantly that it was put there by an intelligent force. If, instead we saw the image of a line stretching into the distance resembling this pattern,~~~~~~~ on the sand you might think it was put there by an intelligent force and I might conclude it was simply the actions of waves. The proof burden would be higher for you than for me because your hypothesis is much more complex than mine. That bit of logic is known as Occum's Razor, the fairly well-know logic that suggests that if one hears hoofbeats, it is more likely to be horses than unicorns.

Really, when you break down ID you get a wish for something to be so and the wish, while it might be heartfelt, is not up to the task of proof.

439 posted on 12/04/2005 4:17:46 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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