Posted on 12/03/2005 5:28:45 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
TO read the headlines, intelligent design as a challenge to evolution seems to be building momentum.
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Behind the headlines, however, intelligent design as a field of inquiry is failing to gain the traction its supporters had hoped for. It has gained little support among the academics who should have been its natural allies. And if the intelligent design proponents lose the case in Dover, there could be serious consequences for the movement's credibility.
On college campuses, the movement's theorists are academic pariahs, publicly denounced by their own colleagues. Design proponents have published few papers in peer-reviewed scientific journals.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
"The theory of evolution has no political implications whatsoever."
Well, Karl Marx and Adolf Hitler obviously thought it did.
And if Karl Marx and Adold Hitler thought it did, then it obviously did -- unless you are prepared to argue that Karl Marx and Adold Hitler had no political impact on the world.
The tragedy of it is that Karl and Adolf were as wrong about the science as you are.
I repeat, your views share intersting company.
Read: "Unauthorized Freud" by Frederick Crews
“Then why bring up the totally unrelated topic of atheism in a discussion of evolution?”
This question itself strays from the thread.
If we get too hung up on discussing the process of the discussion rather than the content of the discussion, we might waste unnecessary time and we might generate the appearance of trying to avoid arguments that we can’t win.
I still say atheism is nothing but a wish.
Intelligent design should be taught in schools. As I mentioned earlier, schools these days are full of junk topics and from this perspective to be so strongly opposed to including ID in the education of our children just doesn’t make sense. This debate is quite involved, it reaches through many levels of academic discourse. Again, it would elevate the quality of education.
I'm pretty sure that she's French.
Not sure I care to read that. I don't have time to read anything anymore. I have a 1000 page Libertarian book I told someone I would read along with Atlas Shrugged (who is John Galt, btw?). I am also supposed to be researching UAV's as we speak. When would I have time to read that!
The 21st century is going to see a lot of the liberal icons come crashing down. I'm not accepting any more left-wing "experts" without checking things out personally. What the libs did to ruin art, architecture, music and the rest of our culture is unforgivable.
Senator Bedfellow says: "Jim Jones, the Taliban, al Qaeda, David Koresh, Sun Myung Moon, and the Nuwaubians all expressed a firm belief in creationism. How's that bed fit you?"
But you "forgot" to mention the names these guys, Senator Spinmeister:
Monday, October 24, 2005
'Intelligent design' supporters gather
About 700 scientists from Africa, Europe and the United States attended Saturday's "Darwin and Design" conference to press their contention that evolution cannot fully explain the origins of life or the emergence of highly complex species.
snippet from:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/printer2/index.asp?ploc=b&refer=http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1103ap_czech_intelligent_design.html
That's probably a good idea. It's good to check things out personally instead of taking someone else's word for it.
"Providence withdrew its protection and our people fell… And in this hour we sink to our knees and beseech our almighty God that He may bless us, that He may give us the strength to carry on the struggle for the freedom, the future, the honor, and the peace of our people. So help us God.""Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without religious foundation is built on air; consequently all character training and religion must be derived from faith…"
"We were convinced that the people need and require faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out."
Know the author of these?
Wassamatta? You don't like guilt-by-association? Maybe you should instruct your friends, eh?
Strike one on the crackpot count. :)
Frankly, none of us can say how life started, because we weren't there.
But I want Intelligent Design as a field of inquiry to continue. This is only fair and just. If the theory produces nothing permanent, so be it.
Science is supposed to change; theories are corrected, extended, or sometimes even tossed out entirely as new information appears. To not do so would violate the scientific method.
Chances are that the evolution theory is doomed to be replaced by something else eventually anyway and not recognizing that is illogical.
Good night, all.
"If ID research"
What is ID research? Probing the mind of God? How? How, then, is ID, which involves supernatural, be examined using natural scientific techniques?
I predict that someday the theory of gravity will be replaced by something, possibly by the theory that the earth sucks at the hand of an intelligent agent. "Intelligent suck" theory, perhaps.
OK, let me be very specific. By explaining human origins without the *need* for "God" or any other Intelligent Being, Darwin's theory paved the way for a godless government in which a particular man, Adolf Hitler, took on the role of God. if you couldn't figure that out for yourself, I doubt you can reason your way out of a wet paper bag.
If I believe that Christianity gives me license to slaughter Jews and I do so, is that an indictment of me or of Christianity?
If Christians were still doing that in the name of Christianity, and other Christians were not comdemning them, then yes, it obviously would be an indictment of Christianity. Oh, by the way, you better believe that Leftists and communists are *still* using the theory of evolution for their purposes. It could be considered their main "intellectual" weapon. Just listen to how they riducule anyone who dissents. And many even on the Right are falling for it, hook, line, and sinker.
I'll repeat it yet again: your views share interesting company. How does it feel to be on the side of Karl Marx and Adolf Hitler on the trivial little question of where the human race came from?
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