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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 17

Posted on 11/05/2005 1:26:38 PM PST by Slings and Arrows

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TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: boycottaruba; corruptlittleisland; deepakisarapist; jorandidit; natalee; nataleeholloway
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2,821 posted on 01/17/2006 10:28:58 PM PST by shebacal
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To: shebacal
Dompig: He did not request TES to make the search. Miller has to tell us every day where he is searching. Miller's team does not have the police's cooperation. Miller cannot touch anything, he has to contact local authorities if he finds anything.

At the point where TES turns anything they find over to ALE then it disappears, it was never found, there is no record of anything being turned over to the police, they never heard of anything being found, it was just a rumor, etc., etc. I hope TES brings video cameras and films anything they find before calling in the local authorities Keystone cops.

2,822 posted on 01/17/2006 10:39:01 PM PST by shebacal
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To: Canadian Outrage; presently no screen name
Here is a sample of the groups that Aruba is targeting, the Georgia Chamber of Commerce:

Georgia Chamber of Commerce

Twenty weeks of hard work and fierce dedication on the part of more than 500 statewide volunteers paid off on Wednesday, Nov. 9, when David Ratcliffe, President & CEO, Southern Company, and 2005 Chair of the Georgia Chamber announced that the Team Georgia Chamber '05 Membership Campaign had hit and exceeded its target. Though the numbers were still being tabulated – and will continue to grow over the next few weeks – the drive reached its deadline with $1,504,636.

Snip... For 24 of the campaign's top producers and their guests, their next stop is Aruba in January, for the annual post-campaign planning and evaluation session. This five-day excursion to the popular Caribbean island is a mix of relaxing and brainstorming about the 2006 campaign and ways to make it even better.

These normal seeming people must really be heartless.

2,823 posted on 01/17/2006 10:57:19 PM PST by shebacal
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To: shebacal
www.click2houston.com/news/

Donations Help Texas EquuSearch Dig Out Of Debt
Federal Grant, $12,000 In Donations Help Organization Stay Alive

POSTED: 9:32 am CST January 10, 2006
UPDATED: 9:36 am CST January 10, 2006

HOUSTON -- A specialized volunteer search team based in Texas is seeing brighter days thanks to donations and federal grant money.

Texas EquuSearch was $60,000 in debt, but found Tim Miller said the search-and-rescue organization is now making a slow recovery.

Miller said EquuSearch has recently received federal grants and $12,000 in donations.

In December, EquuSearch helped find the bodies of a missing 12-year-old girl, Teketria Buggs, and missing University of Houston-Downtown student, Nate Hendrickson.

The group has also helped in the search of Aruba for missing Alabama teen, Natalee Holloway.




www.texasequusearch.org/

If you would like to make an online donation please click here OR mail your donation to:

Texas EquuSearch Mounted SAR Team
P. O. Box 395
Dickinson, TX 77539

2,824 posted on 01/17/2006 11:37:37 PM PST by shebacal
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To: All
Texas Equusearch



Tim Miller calling in daily from Aruba to provide search updates

01/16/2006 -- The meeting with Chief Dompig was extremely positive! He has approved all of our requests. The Aruban authorities will help in any way possible and are interested in finding Natalee. The cooperation from the Aruban authorities is great. There is a promise of constant communication between Tim and Chief Dompig and Tim expects this level of cooperation to only get better.

Please keep Natalee, her family & Aruba in your prayers and that we are blessed with an opportunity to bring her home. Thank you Chief Dompig and thank you Aruba.

01/15/2006 -- Tim Miller will be meeting with Chief Dompig on Monday to finalize search plans and confirm authorization to utilize the necessary equipment needed to complete the task. The rumor that Natalee has been found is false.

2,825 posted on 01/17/2006 11:43:46 PM PST by shebacal
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To: shebacal

Natalee will be found! Alive!


2,826 posted on 01/18/2006 3:42:59 AM PST by leaf errickson
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To: Canadian Outrage

Good Morning CO,
Thought I would grace the thread with my presence.

Yes, this is a methodical torture of the Holloway family.

If someone were to kidnap urine, the worm would definitely begin to turn.

Video the little POS being tortured, screaming, pleading and calling for pvds to tell the truth.

Send pvds a piece of his scum son everyday. Either pvds will talk or he will feel to the mental&physical degradation to which the Holloway's suffer.

Better yet, he will lose piss-boy, a piece at a time for his dastardly crime.

As to the alpoe bro's, repeat the same methodology with them. Mommy alpoe will break or the cartel will slit her goat lying throat.

I know this method of info extraction is frowned upon, but aruboo does not want the truth in this case revealed.

As it is said, "Extreme Situations Sometimes, Require Extreme Measures."

Have you noticed CO, no calvary has been sent in by the boy&girls from the "Ivory House on the Hill?"

They sit on their asses while aruboo continues to "Wag the Holloway's and America."

Color Me Red-White&Blue,
NSNR-THM







2,827 posted on 01/18/2006 5:15:45 AM PST by No Surrender No Retreat (Xin Loi My Boy!!!!)
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To: shebacal

Was the article from a US paper?


2,828 posted on 01/18/2006 6:43:01 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: shebacal

".....when TES may be getting close to finding Natalee's body."

Tim Miller said that THIS search is because Dompig says they need to look between 3-5 miles out. If Miller has said there is anyother reason for it, I missed it. I think that this is also part of the recent cluster of alleged investigative news, surely planned to try to remediate the pathetic history of the investigation of ALE.

I believe this is Millers opinion, too, but he can't be seen declining to search, as it would play right into ALE's hand. At this late date a needle in a haystack would be 1000 times easier to find than any remnant of a body out there. The sea and its inhabitants are very efficient in recycling protein.


2,829 posted on 01/18/2006 6:51:02 AM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: No Surrender No Retreat
CO and I have both noticed that there was no cavalry sent and wondered if it might have anything to do with the bank on Curacao being purchased by the group headed by the Iranian and peopled with names like Jack Kemp, etc. Unable to connect the dots, but still wondering...

I like your method for solving the case. It is extreme, but at this point, it appears that's what is needed for resolution.

2,830 posted on 01/18/2006 7:00:58 AM PST by penowa
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To: shebacal

here is my letter to the georgia chamber of commerce:

Why is the Georgia Chamber of Commerce choosing to celebrate and spend American dollars in the drug capital of the Carribean? Are you there for a first hand study of smuggling and looking at the banks and casinos the drug trade has built in Aruba?
ARE YOU GOING TO BUY ANY? What hypocritical buffoons the Georgia Chamber of Commerce seems to be reveling in presenting themselves as...you should be ashamed, but we can be certain this trip is so sex and drug riddled there probably isn't anywhere else to go that could provide you these things (and still have you outright support the drug industry covertly)...What possibly would cause you to go to such a known drug transfer location? What image are you providing those working against the infiltration of drugs in America?

all of this is geared for them to duck without throwing Natalee at them; they'll hear enough about that after they are there, and since they themselves make this drug thing a big issue on their website, it doesn't hurt to have them go there with their eyes wide open***

i know the letters and emails are having their effect bigtime and are wearing the opposition down, while it also appears to have prodded the spin machine into "locating Natalee alive on a nearby island"...sure, aruba; what could be more likely?


2,831 posted on 01/18/2006 9:25:07 AM PST by nuntukamen ("where ever you go, there you are"...Buckaroo Banzai)
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To: penowa

Top of the Day to you Penowa,
Ironically, that may be the only way to find the truth and obtain rightful justice.

The ale&dutch justice system are using the bait and switch ploy on the Holloway's.

As to any American politician who's business interests comes before this innocent girl's, "May them and their families have suites reserved in hell."

What we are previewing is the American elected weenies(mind-set) apathy towards those on the outside of their political aegis.

Reverse the roles, and if it was one of their's, aruboo & the dutch would have hell to pay.

Your theory as to the bank of Curaca and the involvement with American sell-outs, may have some true
validity.

They have forgotten or apathetic towards this international incident. The death of an innocent American girl in a foreign country, deserves some tenacious support from our elected leaders. "Deeds not Words"

"Going along to get along" is the cowards(spineless) self-centered way of avoiding doing what is morally-ethically right.

Oh well, let me get myself down off this "American Patriot" podium, visions of whale blubber, scotch&water and OldsMoSubs cloud my mind.

"If One Frees Their Mind, Then Their Ass Will Follow"
***Quote of the Day***

As I See It,
NSNR-THM










2,832 posted on 01/18/2006 10:41:04 AM PST by No Surrender No Retreat (Xin Loi My Boy!!!!)
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mark


2,833 posted on 01/18/2006 10:48:21 AM PST by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

This is a scam. They are trying to bolster the van der sloot lie and close this case as a mystery.

He dropped her at the beach (lie) and she left the island (lie)

they will put it all on Natalee following the van der sloot story.

Still no timeline for Joran and Paulus as they've both lied.

I have a tip I need to call in: SEARCH THE VAN DER SLOOT PROPERTY!


2,834 posted on 01/18/2006 11:33:54 AM PST by deetch (Frank)
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To: shebacal

Does Aruba have jurisdiction FIVE miles out in the ocean??? Seems to me that that would be Open, International waters. Somehow this just "rubs me the wrong way"!! Couldn't you just see the CONNIPTION FIT if Tim and team went near that old cistern on VDS's property? They would probably all have strokes.


2,835 posted on 01/18/2006 12:40:19 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (I want Western Canada to SEPARATE - Western Canadians CANNOT win in a corrupt system)
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To: shebacal

They ARE heartless and callous also. It's all about money. They forgot about Natalee Holloway loooooong ago. They want so badly to "bury" this case. It's their full time job to "bury" everything about it. Aruba and that murdering Van der Slut family forgot Natalee within days. They honestly don't CARE, not at all. They care only in that they want to get completely RID of any rememberance that Natalee was ever a tourist there. I DESPISE this lot.


2,836 posted on 01/18/2006 12:45:54 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (I want Western Canada to SEPARATE - Western Canadians CANNOT win in a corrupt system)
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To: shebacal

Sheba I'm not so sure Dompig will follow through with his "cooperation". He never has before. I wish Tim would quit kissing butt. Why did he have to even say anything about the boycott issue???


2,837 posted on 01/18/2006 12:48:09 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (I want Western Canada to SEPARATE - Western Canadians CANNOT win in a corrupt system)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

I'm with you all the way dear friend. It may sound harsh but it's been extremely harsh they way Aruba has dealt with Beth and the family too. They don't care AT ALL about Natalee. I would like to see your methodology employed. PVDS would need barrels to catch his sweat in that case.

And yes, I have noticed the deafening silence from the "HILL"!! Very sorry state of affairs there. This entire case is beyond sickening. Maybe I'm a rebel but I don't go along with what Tim Miller is "saying". He means well, but he's being jerked around for sure. First he supports the boycott, now he doesn't support the boycott. Tim is all over the map unfortunately. We'll see when he gets there if he can even find DumPIG!! This is just a repeat of a repeat of a repeat. How many times has Aruba said they would cooperate and do everything possible to aide in a specific searach and then when the time comes they throw up a roadblock!! We'll see.


2,838 posted on 01/18/2006 12:55:48 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (I want Western Canada to SEPARATE - Western Canadians CANNOT win in a corrupt system)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Survivor do you remember when Tim and his team SAT in Aruba WAITING for Dompig to make ONE phone call to the FBI to do this Search months ago??? Dompig suddenly got ugly and refused to pick up the phone or even talk to Tim. WHY would it be any different this time.

I have the feeling it's another false lead anyway. Unless they have been convinced that UNTIL they provide something of value, this WILL NOT go away. It's going to STICK TO ARUBA like white on rice. They have a monkey on their backs and they know it!!


2,839 posted on 01/18/2006 1:00:41 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (I want Western Canada to SEPARATE - Western Canadians CANNOT win in a corrupt system)
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To: Canadian Outrage

'm pretty sure that all countries claim a 12 mile limit....but that the limit between venequela would be 9 miles for the point that there is only 18 miles between then.


2,840 posted on 01/18/2006 1:01:17 PM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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