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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 17

Posted on 11/05/2005 1:26:38 PM PST by Slings and Arrows

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TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: boycottaruba; corruptlittleisland; deepakisarapist; jorandidit; natalee; nataleeholloway
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To: shebacal

Boy oh boy!! That's a LOT of empty space.


2,541 posted on 01/06/2006 8:12:38 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (I want Western Canada to SEPARATE - Western Canadians CANNOT win in a corrupt system)
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To: nuntukamen

Perhaps coal will become the fuel of the future. I agree with you, there are so many other things that could be substituted. Even if we all must stick to the oil addiction there are plenty of other sources other than Saudi Arabia. The OPEC cartel is an agreement made in hell.


2,542 posted on 01/06/2006 8:16:39 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (I want Western Canada to SEPARATE - Western Canadians CANNOT win in a corrupt system)
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To: Canadian Outrage

Morning CO,
I am a Republican(Realist) and that was a joke concerning ever becoming a demo.

The joke is that only a (Bast--d) could become a democrat with the exception of Zell Miller.

I like you, will always be on the side of Good and oppose Evil which translates to Good(Repubs)vs Evil(Dems)
I prefer the taste of "Frei Bros." Merlot wine over any other brand. As I say, "Drinking a little wine sure makes it a fun time."

From the pics "Shebacal" posted of the island dung hole of auboo, my take is this. Well, it looks like the hard times in 1929, Hey!!!! American/Canadian buddy could you lend me a dime?" Hell No!!!!

Any American who vacations to that "funk dump island" should have their US citizenship revoked.

One might say that is mean, but why not take it way past the extreme. We owe it to Natlalee for her blood that was shed, to insure those perps may one day be dead.

Oh my God, I am becoming grossly "Mean Spirited" by speaking the truth of how things should conclude.

Well CO, gotta go and "May The Red Wine Sparkle In The Glass."

Once Upon A Time In America,
NSNR-THM







2,543 posted on 01/07/2006 6:23:28 AM PST by No Surrender No Retreat (Xin Loi My Boy!!!!)
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To: Canadian Outrage

Hey CO,
Envison this, a "saudi faux prince" prostrate on the sand with a Green Beret soldier standing over him with his boot on the saudi's neck, and a GAU-5 jammed in his face saying this," What Price Now Opec!!!!!!!!!!!"

We should have taken that oil back in 1972. We gave them the technology, workforce and foreign aid.

They repay us with astronomical price increases and hatred towards America and Canada.

The OIL CEO(s) need to be put in prison for treason(for greed&theft) against America and the working class citizens.

Pass me another 30 round mag, I still have an itchy trigger finger Audey.

To Hell and Back,
NSNR-THM


2,544 posted on 01/07/2006 6:33:36 AM PST by No Surrender No Retreat (Xin Loi My Boy!!!!)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat; All
I have found that some of the cruise ships that call at Aruba have webcams on them. I am trying to match up the ship schedule of ships about to dock at Aruba with ships that have webcams onboard, so we can see how many passengers might disembark to spend some money on Aruba.

Here is the ship schedule for the next few days:

Sat 7 'Zaandam' HAL 12:00-23:00 Cap:1440
Mon 9 'Century' Celebrity Cruises 07:00-18:00 Cap:1750
Mon 9 'Crystal Harmony' Crystal Cruises 09:00-17:00 Cap:940
Mon 9 'Braemer' Fred Olsen 08:00-17:00 Cap:820
Tue 10 'Adventure of the Seas' R.C.I. 08:00-1:00(Wed11) Cap:3114
Wed 11 'Empress of the Seas' R.C.I. 07:00-23:00 1600
Wed 11 'Astor' Transocean Tours 8:00-22:00 590
Thu 12 'Constellation' Celebrity Cruises 11:00-23:00 2449

Here a link to the Bridge' cam for the 'Constellation', due in Aruba on Thur the 12th:

Bridgecam (currently docked at San Juan):
http://www.celebrityatsea.com/index.aspx?Value=9&Loc=CC2&SLoc=CC&ALocs=123

To see the Labcam and the Cafecam, click on links at bottom of bridge picture for 'Labcam' and 'Cafecam', which will not come up as separate links here.
2,545 posted on 01/07/2006 12:42:14 PM PST by shebacal
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To: shebacal

Right now I don't see anyone in the Labcam picture, and only 3 people in the Cafecam picture. Maybe everyone is on shore at San Juan.


2,546 posted on 01/07/2006 12:46:16 PM PST by shebacal
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To: shebacal
Here is the 'Crystal Symphony' Computer Lab cam, which is scheduled to dock at Aruba on Thur, the 12th.

Things are picking up, I see 3 people here. Picture refreshes once a minute.

2,547 posted on 01/07/2006 12:55:21 PM PST by shebacal
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To: All
Here is a link to the Celebrity 'Century' 'Bridgecam', which the Aruba ship schedule listed as arriving on Jan 9th, but the Celebrity link shows that the 'Century' left Aruba on Jan 5th, now headed for Colon.

"http://www.celebrityatsea.com/index.aspx?Value=9&Loc=CN2&SLoc=CN&ALocs=12

Click on 'Labcam' link at bottom of picture to see Labcam.

2,548 posted on 01/07/2006 1:16:58 PM PST by shebacal
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To: shebacal

Hey Shebacal,
My take on that crystal symphony computer lab is this.

Alright Ladies and Gentleman, due to the enormous influx of passengers in the "CSCL" you must take a number and wait your turn at the computers. Ha ha ha.

Whe the tourism screws are tightened, the aruban worms will most definitely turn.

Oh No!!!! I am getting all misty eyed. (Boo Hoo)

Thanks for the info and links.

Let's Nail aruboo's Coffin Shut,
NSNR-THM


2,549 posted on 01/07/2006 1:57:37 PM PST by No Surrender No Retreat (Xin Loi My Boy!!!!)
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To: All
Ireland-on-Line

Schoolmates distraught as cruise girl disappears
06/01/2006 (Jan 6, 2006) - 11:07:03

Excerpt...
Distraught classmates of an Irish teenager missing from a cruise ship in the Caribbean were gathering at her school today to comfort each other.

Lynsey O’Brien, from south Dublin, is feared drowned after she disappeared early yesterday while on a family holiday.

It is understood the 15-year-old was discovered missing from her cabin and the alarm was raised by another family member.

A search of the boat was initiated immediately, but she could not be found.

Excerpt...
A spokeswoman for the Department of Foreign Affairs said Irish Embassy staff in Mexico were offering consular assistance to the family of a girl who had disappeared from the boat.

To continue: Ireland-On-Line

Irish teenager missing from Caribbean cruise ship 06/01/2006 (Jan 6, 2006) - 08:17:26 An Irish teenager has reportedly gone missing while on a Caribbean cruise with her family.

Reports this morning said the 15-year-old girl, from the Terenure area of Dublin, went missing from her cabin early yesterday morning.

A search was immediately mounted, but it turned up no trace of the girl.

The Department of Foreign Affairs is providing consular assistance to her family.

© Thomas Crosbie Media, 2006.

2,550 posted on 01/07/2006 3:01:09 PM PST by shebacal
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To: No Surrender No Retreat; shebacal

In case someone missed it, here is a refresher course about saudi princes.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1516416/posts?page=1052#1052

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1516416/posts?page=1044#1044

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1471591/posts?page=2627#2627


2,551 posted on 01/07/2006 4:48:20 PM PST by LucyT (Where is a mooslimb-free country?)
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To: RGVTx; justche; Canadian Outrage; LucyT; deetch; No Surrender No Retreat; MAWG; Malichi; ...
As some here predicted she would, Beth is becoming a spokesperson for the lost, this time as guest speaker with slide show at a conference of the National Sheriffs' Association being held in Palm Desert, CA.

Beth Holloway Twitty urges teens to be cautious
Aruban mystery spurs campaign for awareness

Marie McCain
The Desert Sun
January 7, 2006

To read the article:

http://www.thedesertsun.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060107/NEWS01/601070323/1006

Copyright © 2006 The Desert Sun - Gannett
2,552 posted on 01/07/2006 9:45:59 PM PST by shebacal
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To: shebacal

Beth: She added that because of what she called corruption, discrimination and governmental apathy she believes the three men suspected in her daughter's disappearance will never be questioned by authorities again.


2,553 posted on 01/07/2006 9:49:53 PM PST by shebacal
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To: shebacal
She urged the standing room only crowd to support her new "Save Yourself" campaign.

I think we will be hearing more about Beth's "Save Yourself" campaign. This is the kind of publicity that Aruba can't buy for any amount of money.

I would like to see it go into schools, increased with other speakers from those parents of the lost.

The more Aruba is held up to the nation as an example of law enforcement gone horribly wrong, the worse for the Aruban economy.

2,554 posted on 01/07/2006 9:55:01 PM PST by shebacal
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To: shebacal

What island where they near?


2,555 posted on 01/07/2006 10:04:48 PM PST by justche (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Damn straight, I'll cast the first stone!" - MeanWestTexan)
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To: All
www.scaredmonkeys.net

Posted by Getagrip: Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:47 pm

According to Jorge Pesquera of AHATA: Dutch group knows how to counteract the negative effect in the U.S. of the case of Natalee Holloway

www.diarioaruba.com/
01/06/2006

ORANJESTAD (AAN): During a meeting which took place Thursday afternoon at the Renaissance Convention Center between the Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association (AHATA) and their partners, related to the presentation of their 2006 Business Plan, the impact that the case of Natalee Holloway has in the US was remarked upon.

DIARIO asked Mr. Jorge Pesquera, CEO of AHATA, how the Netherlands Board of Tourism and Conventions (NBTC), AHATA’s new partner in what relates to the promotion of Aruba in the US, will focus their plan of action in what terms of this case.

He indicated that there are people working at NBTC who know to deal with clients at a very sophisticated level. He continued to say that to be able to counteract the opinions that certain Americans have of Aruba due to the case of Natalee, a sophisticated level of how the style of sale will take place is required and that NBTC has this.

Pesquera stated to DIARIO that in the way questions that were asked were answered, he is convinced that NBTC are consummate professionals who know the right way to counteract the effects of the Natalee Holloway case.

“This is something that has to be explained and has to be done with logic, with information and with the conviction that we have the truth on our side”, he said.

2,556 posted on 01/07/2006 10:25:12 PM PST by shebacal
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To: justche

Could it possibly be: out of Mexican port which sports a C&C's, headed for Aruba, and Curacao???

Actually, the article did not say.


2,557 posted on 01/07/2006 10:36:11 PM PST by shebacal
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To: All
In topsy-turvey whacked-out Aruba Justice System:

www.scaredmonkeys.net

Posted by Getagrip: Sat Jan 07, 2006 1:42 pm

He threatened case against Public Prosecutor if he did not obtain good conduct document

Paul van der Sloot will now work as a lawyer

Bon Dia Aruba - 01/06/2006

ORANJESTAD – Last week, Mr. Paul van der Sloot attended court for a meeting. This was related to the fact that his contract with the government for his function as judge expired and the Court had to know what Mr. Paul van der Sloot was going to do. The options weren’t many. Either he left Aruba and establish himself back in Holland or he stayed in Aruba but had to look for another function.

WORK AS A LAWYER

A Bon Dia investigation demonstrates that Mr. Paul van der Sloot chose to stay in Aruba and that he wants to continue working as a lawyer given that he did not completely achieve his judgeship studies. There is a rumour circulating that Mr. Paul van der Sloot will work in the office of Mr. Carlo. Bon Dia Aruba called Mr. Carlo’s office for more information, but he couldn’t be located.

CASE AGAINST PUBLIC PROSECUTOR

Paul van der Sloot asked the judge to be registered as a lawyer. When making such a petition, the judge asks the Attorney General (AG) of Aruba if they have something against the person being registered as an attorney. The AG bases her advice on data from the “Justitiele Documentatiedienst” (justice documentation service).

It is in the “Justitiele Documentatiedienst” that judge decisions in penal cases (sentence) and prosecutor decisions (sepot? Or conditional sepot?) are registered. The Justitiele
Documentatiedienst then gives a so called conduct declaration.

In the case of Mr. Paul van der Sloot, there is a case registered in the Justitiele Documentatiedienst. As it is known, in June 2005, Mr. van der Sloot was detained but there is still no decision from the prosecutor nor from the judge. This made it such that a good conduct document could not be given.

On this basis, Mr. Paul van der Sloot decided to start a case against the Public Prosecutor. Bon Dia’s investigation shows that Mr. van der Sloot made a petition to the court for this case and it was determined that this case will take place on January 11 at 2 in the afternoon.

CASE WILL NOT CONTINUE

However, yesterday the Public Prosecutor notified Mr. van der Sloot for him to drop by their office and come get his good conduct document. This was based on the last case that Mr. van der Sloot brought for damages and prejudice.

A couple of weeks back, van der Sloot started a case where he asked for damages and prejudice for his arrest and the days that he was imprisoned. During the treatment of the case Mr. van der Sloot’s attorney, Mr. Swaen, showed the judge a letter from the prosecutor that dealt with the case of van der Sloot where the prosecutor said that Mr. Paul van der Sloot could not obtain any case documents because he was no longer a suspect.

On the basis of this letter, the attorney told the judge that the prosecutor let it be known that the case against van der Sloot was over. The judge said in his decision that he is in agreement with the attorney.

Given that the prosecutor herself said that Mr. van der Sloot is no longer a suspect, which according to the judge can be looked at as the prosecutor saying that the case is over, since the prosecutor will no longer pursue the case. This signifies that Paul van der Sloot will soon start working as a lawyer in Aruba and the case he brought forth against the Public Prosecutor will not go forward since he obtained his good conduct document, which is the document he was missing to be registered as a lawyer.

2,558 posted on 01/07/2006 10:44:01 PM PST by shebacal
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The Aruban spin-machine. Bash Beth and blow smoke that there is 'something cooking' with the so-called investigation. This blurb is from Diario.

www.scaredmonkeys.net

Posted by Getagrip: Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:00 pm

According to sources

Beth Twitty spent Christmas skiing in Utah
While there are indications that the investigative team is busy with something important

http://www.diarioaruba.com/diasabra/noticia/news4.html
01/07/2006

ORANJESTAD (AAN): Recently, DIARIO published an article which gave an idea of how Joran van der Sloot spent his days during his vacation and also later.

DIARIO published an article which gave an impression about the life of the other suspects in the case of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, Deepak and Satish Kalpoe are continuing with their lives.

Recently DIARIO obtained information about how Beth Twitty, Natalee Holloway’s mother, is spending her time.

According to information, Beth Twitty is traveling a lot, among others she is frequently in New York, where she appears on different television programs, to try to keep the story of the disappearance of her child alive.

Beth Twitty was also spotted in Utah, in the US, where around the Christmas days she was skiing with her family.

It is still not known if Beth Twitty has the intention to travel back to Aruba, or what day this will be.

In what relates to the investigation of this case, not much information has been given, but DIARIO obtained information that shows that the investigative team is busy with something very important in this case.

What this is exactly is not known still, but as they say in English, DIARIO has indications that ‘something’s cooking’.

2,559 posted on 01/07/2006 10:54:26 PM PST by shebacal
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This Pesquera guy seems to be delusional. The Aruba Tourism Authority has been afraid to publish the hotel occupancy figures since they last published the June, 2005 figures.

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=3382&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=40&sid=4dc17f622245525cfeddc11f0462f2e6

Jorge Pesquera looks at 2006 with much optimism

“The year 2005 was a record year for sales and in the increased quality of the product called ‘Aruba’”

http://www.diarioaruba.com/diasabra/local/news2.html
01/07/2006

ORANJESTAD (AAN): In a conversation with Mr. Jorge Pesquera, CEO of the Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association (AHATA), we asked him about his point of view of 2005 in the hotel branch and our tourism, as well as his perspective for the year 2006.

Mr. Pesquera stated that the year 2005, even taking into account everything that happened with Natalee Holloway, in his opinion was a record year in sales and in the increased quality of the Aruba product. “Without a doubt”, he said.

He continued to say that the first 6 months of 2005 had a never before seen occupancy rate in Aruba. He added that for the two semesters [s/b quarters?] of the year that has just passed, they still have to take a look at the results.

“It is my understanding that taking into account what happened, we’re going to have a record year in the productivity level, occupancy and partner revenues this year”.

The AHATA CEO underlined that now the uncertainty is tied to what will happen in 2006. He expressed that he is very optimistic that through initiatives such as “Meet Aruba” and having a spirit of collaboration with Aruba Tourism Authority (ATA), with the respective ministry and that through converstations that have taken place with the tourism committee in Parliament, that this year will become a very productive one and that the future will hold the same.
2,560 posted on 01/07/2006 11:10:19 PM PST by shebacal
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