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To: pigdog; sibb1213
They have no actual real tax plan for the country but apparently only live to attack the FairTax.

As opposed to "pigdog" who apparently only lives to mos-represent the FairTax. How can you debate a tax plan with someone who won't even describe it accurately and insists on the fantasy that everyone will keep 100% of their current pay and all prices with the Fairtax included will stay the same on average. It has been explained so that it is easy to understand, and it has been checked with the Harvard Chief Economist who did the study that the FairTaxers are relying on and he agrees that wages were assumed to go down to current take-home pay levels.

pigdog, I don't know how much further one could go to convince you to drop at least this one mis-representation. To continue to try and reel in new supporters with this outright error is just stupid and will eventually hurt your cause when you have to tell the truth.

56 posted on 09/02/2005 1:54:10 PM PDT by RobFromGa (Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran-- what are we waiting for?)
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To: RobFromGa

Dear RobFromGa,

Of course, there is also the other falsehood, that a repeal amendment ridding of us the 16th amendment couldn't be passed until a sales tax is in place.

As has been stated many times, the repeal amendment could set a transition period of several years to phase out the income tax, or the actual NRST legislation could include a clause that it would not take effect until the repeal of the 16th amendment.

Although this has been pointed out many times, and never effectively disputed, the falsehood is still told.


sitetest


57 posted on 09/02/2005 2:06:12 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: RobFromGa

You're the one who continues to misrepresent, pal. The 75 economists agree with me that workers get their whole check and not with your assumption that they do not.


62 posted on 09/02/2005 2:18:50 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: RobFromGa
And THIS is a clear misrepresentation of what Jorgenson said:

"It has been explained so that it is easy to understand, and it has been checked with the Harvard Chief Economist who did the study that the FairTaxers are relying on and he agrees that wages were assumed to go down to current take-home pay levels. "

What he said was IN HIS ECONOMIC MODEL HE ASSUMED AWAY INCOME AND PAYROLL TAXES to simplify the study. That my friend is a simplifying assumption which is not in concert with the 75 other economists whose letter I posted when they stated that quite the opposite would occur.

THAT is a difference of opinion despite your moronic attempts to gain 15 minutes of fame on a FR thread by misrepresentating things. You are truly pathetic. And, no - you don't know WHAT "... the FairTaxers are relying upon ..." as you pretend. It is obviously more than just a single study as is made clear by the letter from the 75 economists since that letter clearly contradicts Jorgenson's wage assumption.

63 posted on 09/02/2005 2:31:23 PM PDT by pigdog
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