Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 16

Various News Outlets | 8/26/05

[TexKat]

Surinamese Deepak Kalpoe, 21, arrives to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Aruban police arrested Kalpoe and his brother Satish, 18, along with a third person according to government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg, saying he doesn't know if the arrests are connected to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. The two brothers had been previously detained and released. (AP Photo/Pedro Famous Diaz)

Surinamese Satish Kalpoe, 18, front, gets in a car to go to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Two Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, who had been detained and released in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway were arrested again Friday based on new evidence, officials said. The brothers were detained on suspicion of involvement, with unidentified 'other people,' in premeditated murder and rape, the prosecutor's office said. Person to the right is unidentified. (AP Photo/Farrah Boekhoudt)

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HERE IS A MORE LEGIBLE AND READABLE EDITION OF THE E-MAIL I RECEIVED YESTERDAY AS AN OFFICIAL RESPONSE FROM ARUBA, COURTESY OF RGTx

thought you folks would enjoy an authentic and official response from Aruba on Natalee...my own replies are in quotes and I just sent this reply back out so if there actually is any response I'll post it tomorrow...and if my really being an elected official of the democratic party upsets any of my fellow freepers, just let me say that once i had a mental breakdown and thought politics was a viable expression of making America stronger...I resigned, and am much better now. In fact, I am almost well.

ATA Aruba wrote: Dear Sirs, Thank you for taking the time to contact us out of concern for finding Natalee.
"and i appreciate your reply back to me, so as a former elected Secretary of the Democratic Party here in the United States i would like to respond and hear back from you."

Aruba has devoted enormous resources and people power to the search and location effort. Perhaps more than anyone else in this tragic story it is the people of Aruba who most want the Holloway family to have peace of mind and a resolution to this mystery.

"Most folks there seem to be of the opinion that Natalee is just fine and living the irresponsible island life on another island, which is ridiculous...perhaps they think Amy Bradley (from my home state) just happily ran off to a be a prostitute when she disappeared from Aruba seven years ago on her way to Carlos 'n Charlie's, and then murdered herself because she was having so much fun. I have no idea what the Dutch or native islander's really think about Americans, but i am certain it isn't very nice. If Natalee is alive on another island it is because she was sold into white slavery there, but, of course, we all know she was raped by the Kalpo brothers and Joran Van Sloot, something the three, along with many others, have been doing at Carlos & Charlie's for some time."

From the moment of Natalee’s disappearance Aruba rallied around the Holloway family providing resources, manpower, support and prayers. And we marshaled the resources and efforts of thousands:

"But you have set her rapists and killers free so that they could return to work or attend college...wouldn't it be nice if she were at college now?"

Helicopters and ATVs were donated. The Dutch Marines came. The Aruba Red Cross mobilized. Aruba Search & Rescue worked tirelessly.

"None of this happened for months, after it was way too late. Why wasn't the Van Sloot home and property searched? Why did your own Prime Minister state blood was found in Deepak's car and then it was claimed it was just chocolate by the police?"

The U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) provided agent and expertise, since the beginning.

"The FBI itself has stated they were kept from information or participation, and were never really involved or used properly."

Local volunteers worked tirelessly. We deeply thank those who did so, giving of their own time so generously. One of the most powerful displays of support was when the Aruban Government, and many private businesses, gave employees the afternoon off to aide in the search for Natalee. Arubans came out in large numbers combing the island in a show of support and sympathy for the family in the hope of uncovering something to bring us closer to an answer.

"And, we again are extremely appreciative of these genuine efforts."

This is the first time any nation has mobilized so completely to find a single missing girl. Our entire country came together to help resolve this case. The investigation continues.

"Not really: we do it here all the time as a part of standard police procedure when there is a kidnapping or missing child, but we are glad that Aruba has caught up with most civilized nations."

What is truly needed now is a period of silence so whatever chance is left for the investigation to succeed can be undertaken to capture and prosecute those responsible.

"Silence is what the boycott is all about; you can't imagine how both depressing and infuriating it is to know you had already captured and arrested the rapists and then frivolously let them go. What was the point of that? Lack of evidence when you ignore the opportunity to collect any would not be a proper excuse. When friends of the idiot Paulus Van Sloot set his son free with the reasoning being that he shouldn't be late for college, when he has murdered an innocent girl who will never go to college, America as a nation begins thinking you folks are getting a little big headed on our money. So, as appreciative as we are for those who helped in the searches, a boycott MUST continue for generations to come."

Natalee Holloway and her family have been taken into the hearts of the Aruban people. The island of Aruba continues to extend its sincerest thoughts and most heartfelt prayers for her safe return and the peace of mind and comfort of her family and friends.

"Many people, yes, but why don't you go to Carlos & Charlie's and see how much sympathy there is. Why do you allow such a garbage dump bar to continue operating when it is costing you millions in tourism? I know it used to bring vacationers in, but not anymore, especially since the awareness of the rape gangs there has finally made us see what the island attitude really is, at least by its youth."
"May God bless you and Aruba, and may some day we all sit at one table as friends. Unfortunately, that table will be in America."

Sincerely, Aruba Tourism Authority

[Althor]

QUOTE: "Shebacal. It's heartwarming to keep hearing how Aruba is suffering the loss of tourist dollars."



"Those wishing ill upon other human beings gratuitously, deserve to get it back ten-fold."

That is why after three devastating hurricanes we keep shoveling muck and shit here in America! Keep up the good work guys! Karma is right behind you!!!

Althor :P

[RGVTx]

When Joran and the Kalpoes were first interviewed by the police, they were interviewed as witnesses.

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The last three people known to have been with Natalee were only witnesses and not suspects? That Aruban logic is really warped! AlthGore, if you believe that, then you would believe anything. I'll bet you believe AlGore invented the internet, too.

[RGVTx]

Oh I'm so worried about my karma! LOL!!

Thanks for caring enough to worry about my karma too!

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

the corrupt aruban harness-bulls claimed they let the 3 go to "observe them"......but never has there been one shred of evidence that they were "observing" them during those ten days before they were arrested.......net result? They had 10 days to clean everything up to cover their tracks.

[shebacal]

Man Offers Bounties In String Of Break-Ins
Missing Girl's Mother Speaks At Crime Stoppers Breakfast

Posted: 12:18 pm EDT October 26, 2005
Updated: 8:14 pm EDT October 26, 2005

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- A high profile crime victim and philanthropist came to Columbus Wednesday to share the importance of tipsters, but an unexpected announcement was made concerning a recent rash of home invasions in German Village.

The Central Ohio Crime Stoppers take tip calls to help police solve crimes. Their annual breakfast was held Wednesday morning at the Buckeye Hall of Fame, NBC 4's Kyle Anderson reported.

But before the announcement was made, Beth Twitty, the mother of missing teen Natalee Holloway, spoke to the large group about her experience and the need for people to become involved.

Her daughter still missing, Twitty came to Columbus with a message.

"It's too late for Natalee and it's too late for me as her mother," she said. "But it's not too late to prevent this from happening to another parent's son or daughter."

To continue reading:
http://www.nbc4i.com/news/5180711/detail.html

[MAWG]

That's enough! You're disgusting! You have no respect for anything or anyone. I'm pulling the plug.

[shebacal]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9849849/

'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for Oct. 27th
Read the transcript to the Thursday show
Updated: 11:19 a.m. ET Oct. 28, 2005

Guests: Carl Bernstein, DeeDee Myers, G. Gordon Liddy, Henry Lee, Sandy Daughton, Larry Kobilinsky, David Williams, Mary Fulginiti, Lisa Bloom, Sheryl Swoopes, George “Jug” Twitty, Gerold Dompig, Jamie Skeeters

Snip... And now we‘re going to move on to the case in Aruba. Now to new details out of there in the search for a missing teen, Natalee Holloway. The Aruban deputy police chief has just wrapped up a closed-door meeting with the FBI.

This as divers take to the waters around the island paradise to hunt for new clues in Natalee‘s disappearance. On the phone tonight from Aruba is the island‘s deputy chief of police, Gerold Dompig.

Chief, thank you. First of all, how did the meeting go? And how long was the meeting with the FBI?

GEROLD DOMPIG, DEPUTY POLICY CHIEF OF ARUBA: Well, it was a great meeting. And basically, I can say, even though we butted heads a couple of times, but we basically renewed our vows to work together. And we sat for, I think, a little over five hours, but it was a great meeting.

COSBY: What‘s the next step, Chief, in terms of who you want to interview next and where you‘re headed?

DOMPIG: Well, we‘re still looking at the same scenarios. And we‘re pretty much, you would say, encouraged by the fact that the main scenario where we still look at these three boys is also the scenario that the FBI believes that we are on the right track.

COSBY: Is there a possibility she may have run away? Can you exclude that?

DOMPIG: No, not at all, because you have to keep an open mind, of course. But don‘t forget that, if we look at the statements from especially Joran, I have received today an overview of all the several moments where he has basically lied. And that‘s a lot.

COSBY: You also want to talk to some of the girls who were with Natalee. Where does that stand? And are you planning to maybe come to the states to do that?

DOMPIG: Well, we discussed that. We‘re looking at that right now and in what way we can process that. Don‘t forget that there‘s been about 120 teens in the Holiday hotel. So we need to make an assessment of which ones we want to talk to, which questions we haven‘t asked them yet, and try to get it done with the help of the FBI.

COSBY: Do you believe that you‘ll be coming to the states soon possibly, Chief?

DOMPIG: Well, I hope I‘m safe coming to the states, because there‘s a couple of people that are not really pleased with the work that we‘ve done. But, if the time is there, I‘ll be glad to come.

COSBY: Where does it stand with, you know, these key folks, Deepak, Satish and Joran? Do you believe you‘re going to have to be calling them in soon again for questioning?

DOMPIG: Well, I hope so, because they‘re still our main focus. And don‘t forget that we want to make sure that—because these boys have, like, eight, nine lawyers, so we want to make sure that, when we call them in, that we‘re absolutely sure that we have enough basis to call them in.

COSBY: Now, I know, Chief, a lot of the focus was obviously on that taped interview done for Dr. Phil‘s show by Jamie Skeeters‘ with Deepak. Do you believe—you have the tape now. Where do they stand, in terms of analysis? And do you believe—you were telling me that you thought there may be some discrepancies?

DOMPIG: Yes. But because we just want to make sure that these discrepancies are maybe in the transcriptions that were made, but we‘re going to get there soon and I think at a place where we feel comfortable, and maybe even with the legal assistance through the FBI try to get the original version that would be on the hard disk of Jamie Skeeters.

COSBY: And also, real quick, Chief, I know that there‘s sort of a renewed search, from what we heard, at the lighthouse, also the fisherman‘s hut, two of the sort of the key areas there in Aruba. Is there anything, any new evidence to sort of suggest that they should start those searches there again?

DOMPIG: No, no, no. I regret to say no. We‘re still looking in the ocean. And don‘t forget that, by this time, we‘re not looking for a body anymore. But basically, if a body was dropped there, you‘re talking about bones.

COSBY: And you believe there may still be some bones or something there, real quick?

DOMPIG: I hope so.

COSBY: All right, Chief. Thank you very much. We appreciate you being here, and I know on a busy day, after you met with the FBI. Thank you very, very much.

And we‘re going to have a lot more on the Holloway investigation right after the break. We‘re going to talk to one of the family members. Also, reaction to the chief of police‘s meeting from the family.

Plus, those audiotapes, where Deepak admits having sex with Natalee, we‘re going to look at whether or not they‘re real. We‘re going to talk to the guy who did that interview.

Plus, the top star of women‘s basketball is sharing her big secret with me. Sheryl Swoopes joins me for her first primetime interview. Find out what that secret is.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

COSBY: Well, you just heard the Aruban police chief pledging that he will do all he can to bring the Holloway case to a conclusion. He just finished meeting with the FBI.

LIVE & DIRECT right now from California is polygraph examiner Jamie Skeeters. His interview with suspect Deepak Kalpoe is seen as really key evidence in this case. And also, here with us tonight is Natalee‘s stepfather, Jug Twitty.

Jug, let me start with you, because the chief sounded very optimistic, sounded very focused after his meeting with the FBI. That‘s got to be optimistic for you.

GEORGE “JUG” TWITTY, STEPFATHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: It is optimistic. I hope—you know, Gerold was very instrumental in the beginning of the investigation. I felt like the second day or third day down there he was on top of it. And hopefully, you know, we‘ll find something out.

COSBY: Do you get a sense, Jug, that there‘s sort of renewed energy? He also seemed, after the meeting with the FBI, that they both seem to be on the same track, seem to be working together, five-hour meeting. That‘s got to be a good sign, right?

TWITTY: I hope so. I hope that the FBI will call Beth in the morning, and tell her what the meeting was about and, hopefully, give her some hope that they are going in the right direction.

COSBY: You know, Jamie, he was talking about some of the discrepancies with the tape, saying that it was hard to hear some of the things. I know that he‘s sending the tapes to Holland, also checking with the FBI.

You did these recordings. Is that normal for them to be some discrepancies, and it just takes sort of enhancement?

JAMIE SKEETERS, PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR: Yes, Rita. What I heard Gerold make a statement that he didn‘t trust the tapes, there was a couple of red flags.

Gerold and I, we communicate frequently. And I‘m very pleased with the way he‘s handling this. But naturally I was concerned what his red flags were. And he indicated it wasn‘t the credibility of the tapes.

It‘s just that I downloaded from my hard drive on a disc and gave it to the Dr. Phil show. They in turn downloaded that to VCRs. Now, he received VCRs and received my disc, and the disc is much more clearer than the VCRs.

And that was only the only discrepancy, plus the transcripts—when I do homicides and other cases, I do my own transcripts, because it‘s difficult for a secretary to try to interpret what I said depending on background noise.

COSBY: Jamie, real quick, do you believe, sort of after everything gets hashed out, it sounded like you feel confident it‘s going to be authenticated tape, so much that it‘s going to bring these guys in? Don‘t you believe so?

SKEETERS: Well, I think that was the goal when I first started, is to get the FBI in there so they could bring closure to this. And now the FBI, the door‘s open. They‘re welcomed to my hard drive. As a matter of fact, I would almost insist that they please come and get it. And go for it.

COSBY: Yes, good for you. Let me bring in Jug real quick. Jug, I know Beth is planning on going back to Aruba. Are you?

TWITTY: I‘m not. She‘s going back with her brother.

COSBY: OK. So you‘re not going to go with her, unfortunately?

TWITTY: No, I‘m not going with Beth. Paul is going with her.

I hope, Rita, the one thing that really infuriates me is that I hear, you know, the rumors that Paulus Van Der Sloot is trying to get back into his job in the government.

And if the government of Aruba, the people of Aruba, let this man back into a government position, I think it‘s a terrible thing. The guy‘s—he‘s a pitiful excuse of a human being. And he does not deserve to be representing the—or being in the government in Aruba.

COSBY: Good points there, Jug. And I know that the authorities are still looking at him, too, and whether or not he may have played a role here.

Guys, both of you, thank you very much.

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Beth on Greta - Oct. 27, 2005

Beth Twitty appeared on Greta tonight to talk about the new....

Download and view video here:

Blogs for Natalee

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http://www.diarioaruba.com/diahuebs/noticia/index.html

Does Aruba have bad karma since the disappearance of Natalee?

First the collapse of their natural wonder, the arch bridge; now the collapse of part of a street:

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And more of Aruba's gruesome political humor:

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I remember that, too. So why would ALE want to observe them if they were only considered 'witnesses' as one banned poster claimed?

Of course, anyone with a lick of logic knows the gruesome threesome were suspects from the start.

[shebacal]

joranvandersloot.blogspot.com

Joran Van Der Sloot, Suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway

Joran Partying In Arnhem

Joran Van Der Sloot has been spotted partying at the popular Aspen Valley Club
posted by Joranblog at 12:34 AM

It's hard to say if this is an old picture, taken on Aruba, or a recent picture taken at Arnhem.

The guy on the right bears a remarkable resemblance to one of the pimps group identified as Giliam Van Der Straaten.

[LucyT]

Althor, even if you ran naked through the streets of Aruba, you would not deserve to be drugged, raped, or murdered.

As the parent, I can understand Beth's desperation to find Natalee's body. To Beth, finding her daughter is more important than prosecuting anyone, more important than a boycott. Beth thinks if enough pressure is brought to bear on Aruba, maybe someone will disclose where Natalee's body can be found.

[whitedog57]

Althor:

You are a disturbed fool.

I don't care if Natalee did all the things you say. You apparently think that rape and murder is OK "if she asks for it."

Can we get Althor banned? He is either stupid, disturbed, 12 years old, or Dutch.

[RGVTx]

Your request has been granted.
Click on his name on any of his posts and you'll see confirmation.

[shebacal]

Click on his name on any of his posts and you'll see confirmation.

RGVTx, Thanks for the info.

[penowa]

That "epiphany" that Dan had was no doubt either a payoff from the Aruba Task Force run by the porn producer (maybe a lifetime of free porn flicks) or maybe Scubajap just gave poor old Dan his first B.J. since his sister left home.

One thing is for certain, Althor is NOT Dan since his English is stilted, but he has mastered SPELLING which our buddy Dan is still working on at about the 5th grade level (worse when he gets loaded.) My guess is Althor is just another one of those warped Dutchman that spend all day on RWV and all night trying to pick up underage American girls in the internet chat rooms.

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what althor is, is gone

[MAWG]

Damn right he is and good riddance!