Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 16

Various News Outlets | 8/26/05

[TexKat]

Surinamese Deepak Kalpoe, 21, arrives to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Aruban police arrested Kalpoe and his brother Satish, 18, along with a third person according to government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg, saying he doesn't know if the arrests are connected to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. The two brothers had been previously detained and released. (AP Photo/Pedro Famous Diaz)

Surinamese Satish Kalpoe, 18, front, gets in a car to go to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Two Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, who had been detained and released in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway were arrested again Friday based on new evidence, officials said. The brothers were detained on suspicion of involvement, with unidentified 'other people,' in premeditated murder and rape, the prosecutor's office said. Person to the right is unidentified. (AP Photo/Farrah Boekhoudt)

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Commissioner Dompig will ask for Natalee Holloway’s classmates to break their silence
DIARIO Aruba -10/26/2005

ORANJESTAD(AAN): Tuesday morning DIARIO conversed with commissioner Gerold Dompig, who is at the head of the investigation of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, and asked about the latest developments in the case, given for example that Texas Equusearch is back in Aruba one more time.

According to Dompig, they have jump started the investigation, while the investigation never really stopped in this case.

Dompig continued to say that now that he has united the investigative team, they started to read the material that they have one more time, re-analyze everything and look at the material with a fresh mind.

On this basis, according to Dompig, they will look for different angles in the investigation, which can be seen in a way like a puzzle, that they are completing little by little with the pieces.

Dompig feels that a solution to this case is possible, despite that the criticism of people who say that they regret the fact that the suspects have been set free.
He said that this is not a problem, because this does not hamper the investigation.

Dompig explains that on the basis of an appeal that he made recently on television, they have come across different important calls, which shows that there are people who have seen certain things, which they are investigating and it’s going in a good direction.

According to the commissioner, they were focusing the investigation very much on Aruba only, while now along with the team, Dompig is focusing on America as well.

The commissioner explains that one cannot forget that this was a group which drank together and had a good time, but it is not possible that nobody knows anything.

Dompig explains that the classmates’ declarations which they got from the FBI do not give sufficient information.

On this basis, he called on the group of students from Alabama, for them to call the number of the Noord police station to give information they have.

According to Dompig, many parents told the kids to stay quiet and to not speak to the press.

Now after 4 months, the commissioner asks for them to break their silence, because it can't be that we’re putting the [whole] focus of the investigation on Aruba, while there was a group who was walking every day with Natalee who have not come forward with more important information. This also goes for the chaperones and Natalee’s mother.

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posted by Getagrip at 10/27/2005 11:11:00 AM

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According to Dave Holloway
There is always hope of finding Natalee alive, however police are saying to look in the sea
DIARIO Aruba - 10/26/2005


ORANJESTAD(AAN): Recently DIARIO conversed with the father of Natalee Holloway, Dave Holloway, about the fact that he’s back in Aruba.

According to Holloway, the plan was to start searching where Dompig pointed, where perhaps the could find something. DIARIO asked Natalee’s father what he thinks of how the case is going.

According to Holloway, the case is continuing forward, he said to commissioner Dompig that he hopes that they can find answers on important questions about the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

He also hopes that people in the community can come forward with key tips to solve this case.

He feels that there have to be people who may have seen something. According to Holloway, he has daily contact with the police corps every day.

DIARIO asked Holloway how much time he thinks he will continue looking for Natalee, to which he replied that he doesn’t know, given that he had the intention to go back last Friday, however after the information given by Commissioner Dompig, he decided to stay until the weekend.

Given that they are now focusing on finding Natalee’s body, DIARIO asked Natalee’s father if he has no hope of finding Natalee alive.

According to Dave Holloway, the hope always remains, however he explained that the police corps indicated to him in which direction to look and at the moment all indications from the police is to look in the sea.

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posted by Getagrip at 10/27/2005 11:15:00 AM

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Natalee Holloway investigation remains focused on the original suspects, according to commissioner Dompig
DIARIO Aruba - 10/26/2005

ORANJESTAD(AAN): During an interview, DIARIO asked Dompig if the investigation on the case of Natalee Holloway remains in the direction of the original suspects, Joran van der Sloot, Satish Kalpoe and Deepak Kalpoe.

The commissioner explains that it is true that that is the case, because everything shows that they have to know more, given that Natalee went with them in the car. However, this does not exclude other suspects in this case.

DIARIO asked Dompig how the story turned out where one or more of the suspects said during an interrogation that Natalee was perhaps killed.

According to the commissioner it turned out that they don’t know anything of this, and that they only know that they left her on the beach.

He continues to say that it is important to verify their version, where he explains that they have to prove that they went in front of Joran van der Sloot’s house, so people in the community think that they have seen the gray Honda Civic around 1:40 am.

If there are people who saw the car parked at the house at that time, it is very important that they get in touch with police.

DIARIO asked the commissioner about the verbal declarations made to police, where one of the suspects declared that he believes that one of the other suspects killed Natalee and if something is being done with this.

According to Dompig, he found it regrettable that the judge let the suspects go, because the police force saw it differently. They thought that they had enough proof for them to remain in detention still.

He continued to say that he has to live with the judge’s decision, but this doesn’t take away from the fact that the investigation continues, and that the focus remains on these suspects because they are not off the hook yet.

DIARIO asked the commissioner when he can tell us that the investigation is finished. According to the commissioner he can’t give a specific date and as long as he has enough things to investigate, he cannot close the case.

The moment one is going to close the case is the moment when you have nothing more to investigate, when all questions have been answered, but the answers have not completed the puzzle. That’s when one has to pull the plug on the case.

DIARIO asked the commissioner about a bone that was supposedly found, about which he explained that this is not true and that the deal with Equusearch is that when they find something they have to leave it in its place, notify police and wait for police to arrive.

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posted by Getagrip at 10/27/2005 11:22:00 AM

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Dave’s hope is to find her alive
Although everything else indicates otherwise
A.M. Digital - 10/26/2005

Dave Holloway, the father of Natalee Holloway, is back in Aruba and with him so is the Texas EquuSearch team. He said that they are searching in the ocean to try and find Natalee however; he hopes that somebody will come forward with important information to help solve the case of his daughter.

When asked how long he will stay he replied that they were planning on leaving last Friday but, based on information received from Commissioner Dompig, he decided to extend his stay to include this week.

Dave Holloway also said that, although they have hopes to find Natalee alive the police, who are more experienced in these cases, say that they should look for a body, and that is what they are doing.

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posted by Getagrip at 10/27/2005 12:32:00 PM

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Tim Miller of EquuSearch
If nothing is found they will return to the US
A.M. Digital - 10/26/2005

Tim Miller, who is in Aruba again with this EquuSearch Team in connection with the Natalee Holloway case and is organizing a third search effort for the American teen.

Considering the information that they have, Miller said that the possibility exists that Natalee’s body was dumped into the ocean. In view thereof they brought equipment from the only forensic crime scene divers in the US.

He also said that they are working on bringing equipment that can be used at a depth of 1000 feet as the equipment that they presently have only reach 550 feet.They intend to search in deep waters and see what they can find there.

There are 8 EquuSearch members in Aruba and 3 more are on their way. Including Tim, there are a dozen EquuSearch members working closely with local authorities to try and close the case.

Miller said furthermore that all indications are that Natalee is not alive and that they wish to do their utmost to locate her and bring her back home so that the family will know what happened and rest.

He emphasized that EquuSearch is not involved in the investigation; they are simply a search team. Any information on locations to be searched is welcome.

They are presently searching in the ocean north of Aruba by the Fisherman’s Huts and indications are that they must be at a distance of 3 to 5 miles at a depth of 700 to 800 feet.

They are covering about 1 square mile per day which appears to be slow, reason why they are bringing in another unit to double their capacity.

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posted by Getagrip at 10/27/2005 12:33:00 PM

[penowa]

"The commissioner explains that every tip is assigned a number and if the tip results in being very good, the person can earn a reward, however the fund Dompig speaks of is a fund from people around the world, especially America, who have contributed with much money to help the family with expenses related to the case, that has now reached some million dollars."

I know that something may be screwed up because of translation, but does anyone else have the feeling from reading this that Aruba wants Beth to let them control the $ that is in an American bank? Donations to the family to help them search for Natalee (since Aruba hasn't wasted any effort except what makes for a good show.) I guess the task force has now figured out a way to keep Beth from returning to Aruba since it sounds like they suspect she may have done away with her daughter for an insurance settlement and if I were her, I'd expect to be arrested and held while Dompig and the boys investigate all their theories about how she may have been involved for profit in her daughter's disappearance, should she return to Aruba.

If anyone had any notions about a "continuing" investigation into NH's vanishing by the gov't of Aruba, this should settle that for good. I don't think there is any legal recourse for Beth to this, and I don't think she will receive any real help from our gov't. What we need is an unofficial boycott of Aruba and I wish we could get O'Really or somebody to step up and lead it.

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Doesn't PVDS return to court on Nov. 11 for one judge from Curacao to say whether or not he should never have been a suspect, is or is not entitled to his old job back from which he was suspended, whether he is entitled to a financial settlement along with his exoneration? I know I read this information relayed by Tito Lacle in a transcript on here. I know I didn't see it on some TV show because I need a translator to tell me what Lacle says when he speaks in English! Also read that he is asking for exoneration for Joran (and no doubt financial compensation for the time he spent in the can.)

How come I have a feeling that all of PVDS' wish list will be granted and the bill sent to Beth?

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No I won't be surprised.

[Canadian Outrage]

Dompig is just ANOTHER PIG!! How dare he intimate that Beth is raising money fraudulently. I would expect Dave Holloway to correct this information IMMEDIATELY. Then he intimates that maybe one or more of the students is responsible for Natalee going missing!!! Then he intimates that perhaps these guys are NOT GUILTY.

AGAIN, The Dutch are nothing but corrupt POS!!

[Althor]

Nobody said the job was going to be easy, God only knows her predecessor General Colin Powell got burned by it, but as Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice faces the most difficult decisions of her tenure as Secretary of State: the findings by UN investigators into the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri who have found many leads pointing to the direct involvement of Syrian officials, and of the government of Syrian Dictator Maher Assad, about which she told reporters that she was disturbed by the report and said the international community must hold Syria accountable, added to the recent threats made by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad calling for “Israel to be wiped off the face of the earth,” calling on Palestinians to "step-up the violence," stating that “Iran will trample America under its feet,” and Iran’s continuing defiance of the World Community in its mad dash to develop nuclear weaponry, Dr. Rice is faced with one of the most grueling decisions of her career, and must decide on wether to advise the President to invade....Aruba????

After four months of no new leads or developments in the case of her daughter’s disappearance, Natalee Holloway, and of endlessly hashing and rehashing the same repetitive, stale allegations calling to “pin the crime on the donkeys: Joran and the Kalpoe brothers," and after having failed to obtain an audience with his Holiness Pope Benedict XVI to promote her cause, nor been able to convince Kofi Annam (who is presently pretty busy saving his own hide) to let her appear before the General Council of the United Nations to plead her case, while on one of her recent visits to New York to be on Fox, Beth Holloway Twitty, who nevertheless has been able to fiercely cling to the “limelight” in spite of terrorist bombings in London, developments in Iraq, devastating hurricanes one of which almost obliterated one
of America’s major cities, several floods, apocalyptic earthquakes,and sundry other natural disasters and crises that have killed thousands upon endless thousands around the world, managed to get an audience with "Condi," and wiggle her way into a crowded Church where Madam Secretary of State was attending services, in order to ask for her intervention in getting Joran and the Kalpoe brothers "lynched" punishing Aruba for its continuing lack of cooperation in doing so, and get the "media exposure" of been seen in the presence of the Secretary of State and other Foreign Dignitaries, to which Beth reacted with quite a rowdy glow, and an ear to ear smile that puts into perspective all her grief for her missing daughter! Of course, first things come first, and Natalee will just have to wait

At this stage of the case, only an imminent invasion of Aruba would satisfy the demented Banshee’s call for retribution, and the acclaim of her "Cultists."

So, stop the presses, adjourn the United Nations, postpone the Iraqui elections, stop the peace talks in the Middle East, ignore the Confirmation Proceedings of Harriet who? We must focus as a Nation on what is really important, and address Beth’s needs!

As I watched her latest interview on Greta on Fox, suddenly the Energizer bunny paraded across the screen as Beth whined away as usual: “...well, you know Greta.... I don’t know about that...it's not relevant...” in her "affectated, Vivian Leigh, Gone With the Wind, Southern Belle, drawl," and the ominous voice of the announcer said “...it keeps going, and going, and going...” and I was aghast to find, appropriately so, that it was just a commercial, and Beth was now the new “Spokeperson” for the Energizer Bunny which like her keeps “going, and going, and going, and going...” Which begs the question: “Any electrician in the house that can “short” this circuit out to drain the batteries?"


Althor

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Firstly, I said tongue in cheek, "that I wish the US could just drop a Daisy cutter on Aruba"!! Was I calling for war against Aruba by the US?? No OBVIOUSLY. And as I speak of OBVIOUSLY, OBVIOUSLY you have never lost a child in such a cruel manner and then been ABUSED and TORTURED months on end with Lies, NON investigations, changing of your statements( once they got around to them), losing evidence etc. etc. Sorry, every one of God's children is as important as the other. He is no respecter of persons. You are!! Your rant above was really cruel and offensive.

[Althor]

As far as the evidence shows at this point the one holding back "information," and that has been proven to have "lied' about more than one of the "..not pertinet" subjects she avoids, has been Beth. She has refused to go back to Aruba for questioning.

Of course, she's so busy hopping around the country "jet-setting" to do TV interviews, doing "Public Appearances" with Mafioso Joe Mammana, and meeting with Governors, Senators, Secretaries of State, and other Foreign Dignitaries, that she just doesn't have the time!!!

Like I said before, I guess Natalee and Aruba will just have to wait!!!

Althor :D

P.S. Do Canada a favor, and Secede! I'm sure they won't miss you! :P

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Don't you think Beth tried to work with the Aruban officials for many months on their terms? She was threatened, her phone was tapped, she was followed. Honestly, she lost a child. I think she's doing everything she knows how to find out what happened to her beautiful daughter. I'm a mother, I don't know that I could rest with absolutely no answer. Actually, she knows the answer. Natalee was murdered by these three that last took her. Natalee thought she was taking a Taxi back to the Holiday Inn since Joran VDS stated that he was an exchange student was also staying at the Holiday Inn. It was a plan that these three seem to have carried out before. Natalee was probably no supposed to die. However, I think Beth would like to just be able to take her daughter home and bury her.

[Althor]

Oh please get real, and leave your "cloak and dagger" dime novel at the counter!

The ones that have been preempting this investigation since the very beginning with all her "defamation," "innuendos," and "derogatory remarks" about the very Aruban people that opened their arms to her in her hour of need, and has abused their good will, hospitality, and "saintly" patience with abject ingratitude, in spite of all the time they volunteered, the food and lodging they have provided, and even the clothes they've washed for her and her "cronies": who have ran amock all over the island impeding the "real investigation" with their antics, and have up-started the "forensic" and "scientific" investigation of the evidence with their "dowsing rods," "oracular coffee pots," "Mysterious black boxes, " and all their nonsense, claiming every bit of garbage found in Aruba "a crucial bit of evidence that will break the case," have been Beth and her army of clowns!!!

The Aruban authorities have done everything in their power to accommodate this demented Banshee, to the point that her exigencies have almost bankrupted the Island Nation. And now to add insult to injury, and top-off her "gratitude" to the Aruban people she even calls for boycotts to destroy their livelihood?!?!

Its immoral, and its unreal!!!


Althor

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Pfffffft!! - GIVE ME A BREAK!! Your vitriol is beyond the pale.

[MAWG]

Althor, member since July 2005. Nothing but a disruptor with the brain of a flea. Pay no attention to this piece of shit. I'll take the garbage out.



Tick! Tick !! Tick !!

[Malichi]

Got one inside the wire.

TAW

[Malichi]

There you are! I knew you weren't asleep.

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Hey Malachi, loan me your Kbar . Wont need it but for 15 seconds.