Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 16

Yeah Aruba - ANOTHER case UNSOLVED.!! Rene Van Heyningen.

The beheaded guy was somebody they NEEDED to Shut up!!

Dan Abrams is a pain in the butt.

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Palladin, the Dan I wrote about in post #2784 is not Dan Abrams, it is Dan Riehl of:

www.riehlworldview.com

I apologize for the confusion.

Oh, sorry then to Dan Abrams...but just this ONCE. He is still a PIA.

Dan Riehl??? I've forgotten who he is.

Well, that's very interesting. I don't have any info on whether the K2s are Hindu or moslem or what they might be.

Someone above posted that they were identified as Hindu, but I'm uncertain at this point -- that could very well be the case.

Thanks for the "scubajap" info, missed that as I wasn't going to RWV very much after a while.

I don't trust any of these people, frankly. Mama K is trying to protect her "boys" -- as are the Van Slooters.

Their bad boys are sleeping soundly in their beds tonight.

Only Beth is left wondering where her daughter is.

Morning CO,
My concept of(islam) "Is-them" transcribes to a false relgion of PISS.The whole thing reminds me of all this hyphenated American feel good B.S. wth a false religion doctrine.

Many want the milk and honey, but preach about some other way of living and want to be called a hyphen-nation term.

I always think of my 20 years served in the military. Where we consisted of many races, creeds and demoninations, but we were all "Americans" and proud to be called one.

This hyphenation was a liberal leftist feel-good term designed to separate, not unify. Our country has allowed this B.S to prosper due to the PC demonization tactic of intolerance.

During WW2 all the Japanese were rounded up(in America) and put in internment camps for our national security. I think it's time to offer two options to the "ROP" either leave the USA, or be housed in internment centers.

Everyday I see our leaders sit on their asses and let the likes of Calypso Louie Faroutkkan preach his vehement hatred of Jews, Caucasians and any other race who does not embrace his vile moslem 13th century beliefs.

I see the Neo-Nazis preaching their hatred of others who do not tow their party line.

What we have are domestic terrorist& their organizations allowed to multiply in our country. I believe it is time for the ACLU, CPUS, NOI, NAACP, Neo-Nazis New BPs and all the other radical organizations who seek to harm America, be dealt with severely.

What is ironic, I have seen no militia on TV or anywhere else threatening to kill, revolt or divide America. Yet, during the klintoon years any-everything with social disorder and terrorism(OKC)was blamed on the White Militia.

All good Americans, of all races desire to have a good job, a home, a family and a decent standard of living. These Americans go out everyday and make their dreams come true with dedication and hard work.This is the reflection of the real America and our unstoppable proud Americans.

It is time for the all the radicals who seek to destroy our country to be dealt with either in deportation or permanent incarceration to the utopian mecca or a new fatherland.

"Confucis say, he who let vipers sleep in their bed, will one day not wake up for morning tea."

Well in stepping down from the "POA" podium, and ceasing my rhetoric. I will proudly say, "Canadian Outrage" I embrace you proudly as being my American sister&friend.

Sincerely,
NSNR

mark

ping that! well said, NSNR. My beau and I caught Calypso Louie's tirade on tv the other night and were just shocked appalled by the hate and venom spilling from his mouth. To the point that we double checked the bottle of Jim Beam we'd had along at the bonfire, just to be sure we hadn't drunk the entire thing and not noticed that we were completely inebrieted. Alas, we were not. It was true.

Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

This article is heavily biased toward our domestic enemies.......abd it is precisely how/why the xile "Church Committee" et seq worked so hard against the COINTELPRO and all other domestic antp-subversive USD activities.....the current state of affairs as you described them is the result

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/COINTELPRO/gjp3.html

let me fix the typo's, LOL:

This article is heavily biased toward our domestic enemies.......and it is precisely how/why the vile "Church Committee" et seq worked so hard against the COINTELPRO and all other domestic anti-subversive USG activities.....the current state of affairs as you described them is the result

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/COINTELPRO/gjp3.html

Dan Riehl has a blog-site that contains information about Natalee Holloway, which you can read here:

www.riehlworldview.com/

Over the months since Natalee disappeared, his opinions seem to me to have changed very much. Now, it is distressing to me to read what he says about Beth Twitty and the media which frequently interviews her.

Here is one example from Dan:

"The Twitty family went into Aruba determined to find Natalee. Unfortunately, it's very possible that given their know-it-all approach they eventually all but forced the Aruban authorities to move only in the direction of the three boys. And the authorities, aided by the likes of (Jossy) Mansur (of "Diario" newspaper) actually tried incredibly hard to build a case against them. Only a fool believes that any tourist island would put any three members of their population above the greater value of their entire tourist industry. Therefore, I have vowed not to post any more of his writings."

And I have, similarly, vowed not to post anymore of your writings, Dan (with the exception of the above, for illustration purposes).

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9727957/

'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for Oct. 14th
Read the transcript to the Friday show
Updated: 10:05 a.m. ET Oct. 17, 2005

Guests: Dave Holloway, Gerold Dompig, Jamie Skeeters, George Malim, Debbie Boyd, Danny Jenkins, Thomas Wilks, Terry Wright, James Edstrom, Jim Nolan, Ken Sunshine, Michelle Duggar, Jim Bob Duggar, Joshua Duggar, Josiah Duggar

RITA COSBY, HOST: Tonight, for the first time, Natalee Holloway‘s father confronts Aruban police, demanding answers on what really happened to his daughter.

Snip... But we begin tonight with new information coming to us in the Natalee Holloway investigation, as the case appears to be picking up some major steam. For the very first time tonight, we bring together two key figures in the search for the 18-year-old in their first live television interview together.

Joining me now tonight from Aruba is the island‘s deputy chief, Gerold Dompig, and also live is Natalee‘s father, Dave. And also with us is Jamie Skeeters. He‘s the man whose interview with suspect Deepak Kalpoe could blow the entire investigation wide open.

Look at what Deepak told him.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JAMIE SKEETERS, POLYGRAPH EXAMINER: I‘m sure she had sex with all of you.

DEEPAK KALPOE, SUSPECT IN NATALEE HOLLOWAY DISAPPEARANCE: She did.

You‘d be surprised how simple it was.

To tell you quite frankly, dressed like a slut, talked like one, would go in a car with three strange guys, and her mother claiming her to be the goody two-shoes—enough of the BS already!

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COSBY: And let me bring in Dave Holloway right away. Dave, you know, when you hear those comments, we know that they‘re verifying the tapes, are you praying this is going to be the big break, Dave?

DAVE HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY‘S FATHER: Well, I‘m hopeful the police will be able to do something with it, Rita. You know, I spoke with Jamie several days ago, and he told me, basically, the full content of the tape. And I‘m hopeful that Gerold and his people will be able to analyze it and make a decision if it‘s valid.

COSBY: Let me bring in the chief. Chief, walk us through the stages that you need to do right now to verify the tape. How long is it going to take?

GEROLD DOMPIG, ARUBAN DEPUTY POLICE CHIEF: Well, basically, I see—

I personally see three steps. The first step will be try to get the tapes as soon as possible so that we can take a look at them. That‘s one.

The second thing would be that once we are satisfied with what we see and hear, trying to get the tapes verified for their authenticity. And maybe the FBI can assist us with that. Maybe we have to send them to Holland. Maybe both. That‘s going to be the second step.

The third step would be that if—once these tapes have proven to be authentic, which is very important for the court case, we definitely will move ahead. And I assure you that this will be a complete turnaround in the case. And as I said earlier in other interviews, if these guys are guilty, I want them behind bars.

COSBY: Is it possible, Chief, that if these tapes can be authentic, that we could even see search warrants, maybe an arrest in a few weeks, if they‘re authentic?

DOMPIG: Absolutely. I talked to the prosecutor today, as a matter of fact, and we discussed that possibility, and she doesn‘t exclude it. She also told me that, of course, keep in mind that we will have to go to a judge again, but I‘m sure that if we can determine that the tapes are authentic, then we have a strong case to make before a judge to get new warrants for searches and eventually rearrests.

COSBY: Let me show another little clip of that conversation that Jamie Skeeters had with Deepak Kalpoe, where Deepak basically says, I have no friends, sort of alluding to some other things. Let‘s take a listen.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SKEETERS: Sometimes your closest friends, if they‘re worried, and this thing is that big, they‘ll burn you.

KALPOE: I don‘t have any close friends anymore. They‘re all gone.

SKEETERS: Really? Because of this?

KALPOE: Everything is empty.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COSBY: Dave, are you hoping, if the squeeze is on, if maybe they aren‘t such as good friends as Deepak‘s claiming they are, maybe one will crack?

HOLLOWAY: Well, I‘m hopeful that if the tape is authentic and the authorities in Aruba feel like they have something, maybe they‘ll get him back behind bars. As you recall, we had all three behind bars prior to the hurricane we had. And then all of a sudden, you know, our hopes were dashed when they were all let loose. So maybe we‘ll get some better hopes now.

COSBY: Now, Dave, if you‘re confronted with this, if Deepak Kalpoe maybe has some information, you have a big reward out there, would you or someone else in the family be willing to pay him money to tell what he knows, if he can say where Natalee is, if he has that information?

HOLLOWAY: Well, that would be something we‘d have to discuss with Beth. And I think that she‘s agreeable that if there‘s some information out there that can show where Natalee‘s whereabouts are, then the reward is payable.

COSBY: Let me go to the chief because I want to bring also both of you to be able to ask questions. Chief, did any of these men—if we can show the picture of the three of them—this is Joran and both Kalpoe brothers. Did any of these three ever admit to having sex with Natalee to authorities at any point, Chief?

DOMPIG: No, they did not. They keep denying it, and they only went so far as to say that they fondled sexually. At least, Joran did that, and the others denied everything.

COSBY: Now, did Joran—we‘ve heard from the family, Chief, that—you know, that Joran was claiming in some statement that she was going in and out of consciousness. Have you seen that anywhere?

DOMPIG: Yes. That‘s definitely in the statements, and that‘s why we were kind of disappointed when the judge didn‘t accept that because that‘s basically a felony in Aruba. We think that what happened was that the judge just didn‘t buy it the way—because Joran went back and forth with his statements, and he withdrew two statements which he had already given to us. So basically, none of his statements were really trustworthy.

COSBY: But what you‘re saying, Chief, is that he did say that, at some point, she was in and out of consciousness. You‘re saying that‘s a felony in Aruba. where did he say that happened, in the back of the car?

DOMPIG: In the back of the car. He mentioned a couple of times that she passed out a couple of times. Those were his words. But in a way that someone that‘s drunk, that‘s kind of like not really aware of what‘s happening. And that was to us very interesting and very important because we thought, as investigators, that we had at least that. But again, what we are faced with—we‘re faced with, I think that Dave will also have that experience, that it was very disappointing that at a certain point in time, the judge didn‘t buy it.

COSBY: Dave, go ahead. Is there a question you want to ask the chief? And I want to bring Jamie in in a second. But Dave, first, is there a question for the chief you have?

HOLLOWAY: No, not at this moment. I just want to thank Gerold for being forward (ph) with all of his comments and look forward to meeting him. It sounds like to me that he‘s got some good words, and then we put some action with it, maybe we‘ll get some results. And I appreciate him for coming on and getting this going in the right direction.

COSBY: Let me bring Jamie in because there is an inconsistency that I‘ve heard, and I‘m sure all of you are wondering this. Jamie, did Deepak Kalpoe say to you at any point when you met with him, whether it‘s on tape or not, that he believed Joran killed Natalee?

SKEETERS: Yes.

COSBY: He did? Tell me how.

SKEETERS: I talked to him—part of it is on the tape, but the main conversation I had with him, I asked him point blank, Did you kill Natalee? He said, No. I said, Did Satish kill Natalee. He said, No. And I said, Did Joran kill Natalee? He goes, Well, it wasn‘t me, it wasn‘t my brother. So what do you think? And he nodded his head “Yes” and raised—shrugged his shoulders. And that‘s when I asked if he would do a polygraph.

COSBY: And he refused to take that polygraph, right, Jamie?

SKEETERS: Well, no, he didn‘t. He said that he would take a polygraph. He didn‘t think his attorney wanted him to, but he said, I will do a polygraph with you, talking, like, the following day or two from that conversation.

COSBY: But then it never happened, right?

SKEETERS: He was arrested.

COSBY: That‘s what I thought because the timing didn‘t work. But you‘re telling me, Jamie, again, he looked at you and said, Take a guess who did, not as a question of maybe, but strongly saying that Joran did.

SKEETERS: Yes. He didn‘t say, Take a guess. He goes, you know, It wasn‘t me or my brother, but who does that leave? And I said, Joran. He goes, Yes, and then shrugged his shoulders.

COSBY: He said yes?

SKEETERS: Yes.

COSBY: Dave, what do you make of this, when you hear this?

HOLLOWAY: Well, you know, I just couldn‘t really comment at this time. You know, I know they‘re all three involved. You know, we‘ve heard statements from Joran, you know, through the press or leaks or whatever, that he pointed the finger at Deepak. So you really don‘t know.

COSBY: Let me bring in the chief. Chief, what are you going to do with this, if, indeed, he said this? And Jamie, is this on tape in some point, or what form is this in, Jamie?

SKEETERS: No. The statement made that was made there was made before the taping began. But there is something on the tape that I just saw myself the other day, where I asked him if he killed her, and he says, I didn‘t. And I said, Van Der Sloot, and he says, Yes.

COSBY: Oh, and that‘s on tape?

SKEETERS: That‘s on tape.

COSBY: Chief, if that‘s on tape, what do you have now?

DOMPIG: Well, that‘s the reason why because Jamie told me about that already in a phone conversation. And that‘s why I told Jamie, I said, Jamie, I really need your help in this. We need to have the tapes in Aruba as soon as possible.

And to Dave, I want to stress, Dave, hang in there with us. Believe me, we‘re going to stick with it, and anything, anything—I also want to thank him for every—all the e-mails he sent to us because we really look at all the tips and the leads he sends to us on, basically, a daily basis. So he really works with us.

COSBY: Let me show a comment. This is Deepak when he—part of another part of the interview, Jamie, that you did. You guys did a heck of a great job. Let me show another comment. This is when you ask, Do you know where the body is? Here‘s what Deepak had to say.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

KALPOE: If I knew where the body is, I would tell them a long time ago. Let them start a trial and get this over with. I don‘t care.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COSBY: Dave, if you can be in that questioning room—and I believe that the chief can verify these tapes. I believe he‘s going to call these guys in for questioning, maybe even arrest them. Dave, if you‘re in that room, what do you want to ask Deepak, if you could be there with the chief?

HOLLOWAY: Well, I‘d just like to ask him to tell the truth and to let us have closure in this case. Whatever he knows, I would like for him to tell the truth and, you know, stop all of this pointing the fingers at someone else or whatever. Tell what you know, and let‘s get on.

COSBY: What‘s the most troubling thing...

(CROSSTALK)

COSBY: Dave, what‘s the most troubling thing tonight? What is—you know, you hear these questions.

HOLLOWAY: Well, it‘s just a pack of lies. You know, that‘s all we‘ve heard all along is pointing the fingers and, you know, just outright lying. And I think Deepak may have come to his end with Jamie interviewing him, and he wanted to get it over with. And it sounds like to me he wants to talk and wants to tell the truth, hopefully.

COSBY: Do you think you‘re going to be able to have leverage over him, Chief? Do you think—if indeed—look, what Jamie just said I think is a bombshell, that if, indeed, it‘s on the tape saying, Joran, yes, he‘s the one who killed her—you got it on tape. What are you going to be able to do with Deepak now, Chief?

DOMPIG: Well, again, I agree with Dave. I also feel that, again, if these tapes are what they sound like, I‘m sure that these boys are now feeling the urge to talk. And look at the interview that Joran gave in Holland, as well. He didn‘t do such an interview in Aruba. So finally, these boys start talking. And I think that maybe time is against them now, and they will—they are human beings still. I think that it starts haunting them, and they will finally start talking.

COSBY: Dave, I got two quick questions for you. First, there‘s some buzz I‘ve been hearing in the law enforcement community. You may have been gotten a call from someone saying that they were Natalee or acting like they were Natalee? Is there anything that law enforcement‘s looking into?

HOLLOWAY: That was a phone call that we have not verified yet. But you know, I—it‘s just like this. You know, you don‘t want to get your hopes up high because you only end up getting them dashed. but there was a phone call made—I think it was a wrong number, and someone hung up because they really didn‘t say anything. And I‘m just going to leave it at that.

COSBY: Well, ,of course, we‘re all praying that she‘s alive, and if it‘s a prank, that that‘s terrible. What would you want to say real quick to the chief? I know you‘re heading down there, Dave.

HOLLOWAY: Well, I just want to say to the chief and to the other people of Aruba that we still have this Web site open, helpfindnatalee@comcast.net. It‘s an e-mail site. And I‘ve been getting quite a few tips and a lot of leads that I‘ve been forwarding and providing to the police. And you know, I just hope that that continue. And hopefully, one of these days, we will get to the bottom of this case.

COSBY: And you‘re going to be meeting with the chief, I would assume, next week, at some point, right, Dave?

HOLLOWAY: Yes, I hope to.

COSBY: Well, I hope you do, too. And thank you so much, Dave. Jamie Skeeters, great job. And also, Chief, thank you very much. We‘ll probably be talking with you very soon. Thank you for being with us.

Snip...
COSBY: And, everybody, stick with us, because coming up on Monday night, Natalee Holloway‘s mother, Beth Holloway Twitty, is going to join me to talk about her upcoming trip to Aruba.

That does it for me. “SCARBOROUGH COUNTRY” is now.

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9728011/

'Scarborough Country' for Oct. 14th
Read the transcript to the Friday show
Updated: 10:09 a.m. ET Oct. 17, 2005

Guests: Mary Chepak, J.T. “The Brick,” Bernadine Cruz, Jackie Speier, Mary Fulginiti, Scott Andreassi, James Cobb, Beth Holloway Twitty

MIKE BARNICLE, GUEST HOST: Right now, on SCARBOROUGH COUNTRY, Natalee Holloway‘s mother, Beth, on her way back to Aruba with new evidence and new hope after the suspects give what seems to be conflicting statements. Beth Holloway Twitty is here in SCARBOROUGH COUNTRY to talk about these new developments.

Snip...
BARNICLE: Thanks for being here. I‘m Mike Barnicle, in tonight for Joe, who is taking a couple days off.

We will be talking to Beth Holloway Twitty in just a second.

Snip...
But, first, new momentum in the case of missing Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway. In Aruba, the new police commissioner says the three main suspects know much more than they are letting on, and he wants answers. Natalee‘s mother, Beth, is headed back to Aruba next week. She joins us live tonight from Birmingham, Alabama.

Beth, thanks very much for being with us.

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: Thank you, Mike.

BARNICLE: Beth, I want to tell you as a parent, seven children, I have watched you since this horrific event began, and each time I see you on TV, all I can think of, and I want to ask you tonight, how do you get up every morning and go through your day? What is it like to live your life?

HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Well, Mike, it‘s millions of people just like you that have supported us and stayed with the family, and, you know, that is what gets us going and has kept us going every day.

I mean, that is huge, to have that support.

BARNICLE: Beth, Clint Van Zandt is here.

And, Clint, you have worked with the Holloways. Well, why don‘t you talk to Beth about what she is going to do next week and what has happened?

CLINT VAN ZANDT, MSNBC ANALYST: Well, hi, Beth.

Probably, no one has been back and forth to Aruba more times than you have, and on these unfortunate circumstances. When you and I were down there before, talking and working together, it‘s—we hear there are new statements by Deepak and others, and obviously that‘s true.

The challenge to me, and I have got to believe the challenge to you, too, is that these guys have made anywhere from two to 25 different statements. You and I have seen statements that are supposedly made by Joran van der Sloot, where he says Deepak was the one who kidnapped, assaulted, and, in the worst-case scenario, murdered Natalee. I mean, how do you separate the good from the bad, the truth from the untruth in this case?

HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Well, you know, Clint, when I look at Joran‘s statements, there‘s—and what has happened as far as this taped confession from Deepak, there‘s always one thing, though, that keeps coming up, and those are the sexual assaults, and it‘s also to Joran admitting to having sex with Natalee in one of his statements.

And now with this new taped confession from Deepak, they all had sex with my daughter. And Joran in his statements, he wasn‘t inconsistent on having her falling asleep and waking up repeatedly. So to me, that constitutes—that‘s kidnapping and a gang rape. What they did with her after that, yes, it has been inconsistent.

But the kidnapping and rape, I think they have been there all along.

VAN ZANDT: I think the challenge is here, Beth, to put these together. We have got Joran confessing or saying they did one thing. We have got Deepak saying another. I mean, this is like the old layers of the onion, where we are trying to lay them on top of each other.

My challenge as an investigator, were I down there working this case, is to line up three—these statements, these two statements, these three statements, and try to find the level of consistency and then find something that the Aruban police are willing to actually charge these guys with.

HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Absolutely, and cross-referencing all these pieces of evidence is what needs to happen. And, you know, the charges can then be brought forward. I mean, you know, kidnapping and rape, as I said, they have them on that.

BARNICLE: Beth, can I ask you a question? What is your feeling about the effectiveness of the United States government on your behalf? Your daughter is missing on an island, not part of the United States of America. I mean, the police behavior in this, at every level down there, has been mind-boggling, just the people who read about it and watch it on TV.

What is your reaction to any effectiveness, if any, on behalf of the United States government on behalf of your daughter?

HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Well, I think what the family has chosen to do is to remain very respectful of the Dutch law, and we chose to work with the Dutch law, in hopes that it would provide justice for Natalee.

As we all witnessed, though, September the 1st, it has failed Natalee greatly, and now we are relying on the support from the U.S. and from government agencies to get involved, you know, from the governor of Alabama that I met with last week, from state senators to U.S. senators who have been contacting the family. Now it is time for us to seek help from them, because, you know, we tried. We did our part. We remained respectful. We remained just so...

BARNICLE: Yes. Yes.

Clint, there are three suspects.

VAN ZANDT: Yes, three primary suspects, always have been.

BARNICLE: Where are they now? Where are they now, physically?

VAN ZANDT: Well—yes, we have got—we have got Joran van der Sloot, who has been able to slide back to Holland again, strut back to college.

I mean, this is what frustrates me on Beth‘s behalf and as a parent. I mean, here is a guy who 100 percent has acknowledged inappropriate contact, illegal contact. At the very least, Mike, he has acknowledged that, and he gets to troop off to Holland and be a freshman in college.

BARNICLE: And the other two are still on the island.

VAN ZANDT: And the other two are still on the island saying, well, we are not quite sure what we are going to do now. Well, how about tell the truth now, to start with?

BARNICLE: And there‘s a new police commissioner.

And MSNBC‘s Dan Abrams interviewed Aruba‘s new top cop and asked him if he is sure these are the guys responsible for Natalee‘s disappearance.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, “THE ABRAMS REPORT”)

DAN ABRAMS, HOST: Do you believe that Joran, Deepak, and Satish were involved in Natalee‘s disappearance?

GERALD DOMPIG, ARUBAN DEPUTY CHIEF OF POLICE: Well, at this time, I think that all three persons know something that they are not telling, at least not telling us.

ABRAMS: Something about her disappearance?

DOMPIG: Exactly. And I go by the rule of thumb that the first 40 days—I said in a different program, the first 40 days, law enforcement has probably also already spoken to the perpetrators.

So we feel strongly that we have already spoken to them and there‘s no one else outside this group that could be involved or responsible, so sometimes people ask us that, are you not tunnel-visioned? Maybe you should look at other possibilities. Of course. We did that, but we still feel that every time you go on a path, a different path, that path leads back, comes back to these three boys.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BARNICLE: Beth, what‘s your reaction to what he just said?

HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Well, of course, I totally agree, and I do know that they interviewed—the investigative team, they interviewed countless persons of interest.

And, as he is saying that, each time they did, it only led them back, that they would just complete the circle back to Joran van der Sloot, Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, with also the father, Paulus van der Sloot, as being a key person of interest.

BARNICLE: Clint, you interviewed Deepak.

VAN ZANDT: I did. I interviewed Deepak, and then I had a chance to talk to Beth afterwards.

BARNICLE: So, all your years in the FBI, you met the guy; you were in the same room.

VAN ZANDT: Yes. Yes.

BARNICLE: So much of life is in the eyes.

VAN ZANDT: Yes.

BARNICLE: Tell me about—what was his reaction, his body, his physical reaction, his eyes?

(CROSSTALK)

VAN ZANDT: You know, what is—what‘s interesting is, when you get these guys, sometimes, when they are talking to the media and they start saying these terrible things about Natalee, and, you know, I am sitting there watching on television and I want to reach through the screen and grab them by the neck and jerk them right back through the screen and, you know, come here; let me talk to you.

(CROSSTALK)

VAN ZANDT: And, yet, when I am standing there face to face with him, Mike, he kind of shrinks into himself. He kind of does the turtle. He kind of rolls into himself.

But he said—the one thing that I will carry the rest of my life, when I asked him, I said, do you think this case is going to go away? He says, oh, no. He says, Beth will never let it go away.

And that shows the tenaciousness that Beth brings to this and that many times when we lose somebody, someone else has to speak for them. Beth is there to speak for her daughter when Natalee can‘t speak for her, and has to have the strength that Natalee would have, and she has shown that.

And Deepak—I think these guys are afraid of her, and I think they are afraid of the economic pressure that the United States can put on the government to make them do something, as opposed to just let the one boy go off to college and the other two kids hang loose.

Now, we got to prove it. You know, Dan Abrams would say, you know, Clint, you got to prove it. Show it to me right here.

BARNICLE: Yes.

VAN ZANDT: That‘s fine, but the police were slow out of the blocks when this case started. They have got to pick up speed, and they got to stay on these three guys. They are going to make a mistake. They‘re going to say the wrong thing. They‘re going to tell somebody, and someone has to be there to hear that, write it down, and get it to the authorities and keep them moving forward.

BARNICLE: Beth, Clint just indicated that Deepak is afraid of you, of your tenacity and your persistence. And it‘s your daughter, and thus understandable to anyone who has a child. What, if anything, are you afraid of?

HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Well, you know, I really don‘t feel that I have anything to be afraid of.

I think of Deepak Kalpoe, and I think, though, I‘m certain he has fear for himself, and that how he has put his island, how he has single-handedly damaged the integrity of Aruba, from every citizen there. And I think that, you know, Deepak can only look within himself, and he is the one who is responsible for this, he and his brother, Satish Kalpoe, and Joran van der Sloot.

BARNICLE: Clint, what does your instinct tell you on this, as we wrap this up?

VAN ZANDT: Well, it‘s these three guys, Mike. We have got to stay on these three, and I absolutely believe that they are going to say something, they are going to give something up.

But you always go back to what Joran van der Sloot‘s father said, no body, no case. That‘s the legal advice that he brought to this, that he gave to his son, that he gave to his son‘s two friends. I believe Beth. I think that the father had an involvement, too.

The challenge is putting this together in a legal case, so the Aruban authorities can move forward, get their equivalent to an indictment, and get some justice to this case. So far, I mean, because you lock somebody up and turn them loose, that‘s not justice. Justice is get them before a court, bring the evidence, and, if they are guilty, convict them.

BARNICLE: Beth, when are you leaving?

HOLLOWAY TWITTY: I am going to be leaving in the upcoming week, and, you know, I am hoping that they have already received this taped confession from Deepak.

I think it‘s not only audio, but video, and I think that will be a huge turning point in the case, as Dompig said. This new evidence has been brought forward. The boys are talking. It is time now to utilize this new evidence that has come forward.

BARNICLE: Beth Holloway Twitty, Clint Van Zandt, thanks very much for joining us.

HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Thanks, Mike.

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Aruba latest news - Monday 17 October 2005

Addicts’ center at Hotel Central almost finalized

ORANJESTAD — The first client of the shelter for drug addicts has already registered. He took a shower, was given some food and a long talk. And this, while the Hotel Central is not even completely ready to function as a shelter. At the moment the Hotel Central team is making the last adjustments to the building.

Coordinator Steve Gibbs: “Winning the trust of drug addicts is the most important thing. We therefore try to build up a relationship with the addicts through the shelter and the facilities we offer. Love, care and en respect are central, because that’s something addicts can’t find almost anywhere. Then we try to get them interested in our program to stop using drugs.” The employees of the shelter will soon hit the streets to inform especially those addicts on the streets of the possibilities the shelter has to offer. According to Gibbs private donations to the shelter are extremely welcome, especially clothing can be put to good use.

A shelter will also be established at San Nicolas, in the former Chinese Club. The need pariba di brug is very high according to Gibbs. The shelter will not be ready to open before the beginning of next year. The personnel will first work at Hotel Central to gain some experience with the set up and operation of an addict center. With the experience gained in they can start in San Nicolas.

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Traffic un-safe for the blind

ORANJESTAD — Blind people and those with bad eyesight partaking in traffic without any kind of assistance. A scarcity in Aruba, that was broken trough for a while yesterday. Clients of the Fundacion Arubano di esnan Visualmente Incapacita (Favi) took to the streets to rally on two walkways. Large groups of school kids were also involved in the rally so they could learn more about the struggles the visually handicapped must deal with on a daily basis.

Favi selected to walkways for the rally, at the Aruba University and at the De la Salle College. The objective of the rally is to make the community of Aruba more aware of the use and the meaning of the white cane with the red striped, used by the visually handicapped. The rally is also meant to promote the use of the cane by the visually handicapped. The cane is an international symbol and on October 14 ‘the day of the cane’ is celebrated worldwide. This year Favi wanted once more to pay extra attention to this day, because people with a visual handicap feel unsafe in Aruba’s traffic. One of the reasons being that most drivers in Aruba are not familiar with the cane. The abysmal condition of most of the sidewalks or the lack thereof is also one of the reasons most of the visually handicapped can’t walk on the streets as independently as they would like.

With this action Favi hopes to contribute with what the visually handicapped need: understanding and cooperation from all of us. FAVI therefore requests all those in traffic to take into account that a person walking with a cane can’t see or has very bad vision. “Help if you are asked for help, or offer to help even without being asked. Keep in mind that if a visually handicapped person raises the cane, it means that he or she wants to cross the street. Stop the car when that happens, so hat the visually handicapped person can safely cross the street,” stated Favi’s press release.
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VNS67-68,
Thank you for the intell and if it were up to me all these radical organizations, would deported with all members.

Either they are with the right & moral America are, they are against us.

It's time to drop the hammer on all those who would do us harm.

Jimuh karter is a role model- the role and model of a damn stupid liberal commie fool who hates America.

Just saying what needs to be said,

NSNR-CSAOTL

Morning Mama25,
Calypso was waiting on the mothership to come down and bring fire/brimstone on all us blue eyed devils.

What is comical, some of the DNC plantation lackies believe this paranoia to be the gospel.

Calypso reminds me of a viper luring his followers with his forked tongue spewing racial hatred for white and jews.

America needs to purge this filth from our land and send them to the mecca for enternity.

I think Jim Beam would gladly approve of the above idea.

I think the real translation for NOI= "Nuts Of Isthem."

As I See It,
NSNR-CSAOTL

"Confucis say, he who let vipers sleep in their bed, will one day not wake up for morning tea."

'Morning, NSNR; your Confucis quote would make a good tag line.

I am not making this up. The brother of a long time friend drove an automobile for twenty-five years while legally blind.

I was glad he lived in Florida instead of my state.