Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 16

Various News Outlets | 8/26/05

[TexKat]

Surinamese Deepak Kalpoe, 21, arrives to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Aruban police arrested Kalpoe and his brother Satish, 18, along with a third person according to government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg, saying he doesn't know if the arrests are connected to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. The two brothers had been previously detained and released. (AP Photo/Pedro Famous Diaz)

Surinamese Satish Kalpoe, 18, front, gets in a car to go to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Two Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, who had been detained and released in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway were arrested again Friday based on new evidence, officials said. The brothers were detained on suspicion of involvement, with unidentified 'other people,' in premeditated murder and rape, the prosecutor's office said. Person to the right is unidentified. (AP Photo/Farrah Boekhoudt)

[Canadian Outrage]

Me neither. I think Beth is now just determined to "do something" whatever it takes to out these cockroaches. I hope she makes their lives hell!!

[bonfire]

These boys act like they don't have a care in the world. They are now speaking openly. Somehow they've been assured that NOTHING will happen to them.....at least thru the legal system.

[LucyT]

"Next Up in the Netherlands: Euthanasia for Babies"
By Eva Cahen
CNSNews.com Correspondent
October 05, 2005

ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Paris (CNSNews.com) - Four years after becoming the first nation formally to legalize euthanasia, the Netherlands is set to amend its legislation to provide for the euthanasia of newborn babies, under certain circumstances.

In 2001, the Dutch government passed a law allowing doctors to end the life of adult patients at their own request.

The new directive, which will be debated in parliament later this month and most likely approved without a vote, will extend the regulations to incorporate what is known as the Groningen Protocol."

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewForeignBureaus.asp?Try=No&Page=\ForeignBureaus\archive\200510\FOR20051005b.html

[truthluva]

mark

[shebacal]

This is an interesting article on the condition of the Aruban government's finances.

Hmmm...Boycott on the horizon...

Amigoe.com

Nilo Swaen formator

ORANJESTAD — The current minister of Finance and Economic Affairs, Nilo Swaen (MEP), has been appointed formator. His main task is to form a government that can restore the government’s finances. On Friday governor Fredis Refunjol urged him to form a cabinet that can count on the support of at least the MEP-fraction in Parliament –as announced yesterday-. On Monday Swaen informed that he would take on the task of formator.

Last Monday and Tuesday the governor held several meetings. He spoke with the leaders of the political parties that would be represented in the new Parliament. He spoke several times with some of them. The formation instruction states that in the preceding governing terms several cabinets had set the monetary reform of the government’s finances as an objective. In some cases even as the primary objective. The governor however ascertained that the outcome of the policy and of the measures taken in the last 20 years yielded insufficient results. “We must now admit that drastic measures are necessary to attain sound government finances”, stated the formation instruction.

At the moment the largest part of the Countries revenues are spent on running expenses. The most significant being: interest on loans, repayments, salaries of government personnel and costs of the General Healthcare Insurance. The limited opportunity for urgently needed investments will completely disappear if the policy is not amended.

This would mean a cut back in the extra resources intended for education, infrastructure, and healthcare. The governor expressed his concerns on these developments to Swaen and included them in the formation instruction. Refunjol points out that taking on more loans can no longer be considered a sensible possibility. “This image is clearly and ardently confirmed by several expert entities such as the International Monetary Fund, the Central Bank of Aruba and the Central Bureau of Statistics.

[Canadian Outrage]

You are absolutely right. Right from the beginning PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT who was DIRECTLY involved in getting rid of Natalee's body also SET UP the COMPLETE COVER UP with the Aruban CORRUPTION SYSTEM. It couldn't be any more obvious. I'll tell you what, IF I was in this position I don't think I could promise that I wouldn't be looking to hire a mercenary!!

[Canadian Outrage]

The area I live in in B.C. gets a LOT of American tourists. It's a valley full of cottage wineries and the scenery is beautiful. We are actually referred to as Napa North. I have met many lovely American people vacationing here.

[shebacal]

CO, look at this weird cartoon at the bottom of Diario Online. The coffin on the right is saying "Deadman don't talk"!!. Politics in Aruba look a little rough. But I musn't forget, this is really one happy island - oh, right. /sarc:

Diario Online

[Canadian Outrage]

Lucy remember I mentioned this last week. I had coffee with my Dutch friend here and he told me that very thing. Holland is a cesspool of the most IMMORAL people. They are as bad as any third world country. They are a totally CORRUPT society. My Dutch friend who has lived here for 25 years says he and his wife will NEVER go back to Holland again. He was telling me that they are just Nazi's - killing babies that aren't "perfect". They say sick but it's a lot more wide ranging than that. Holland is set to go to Hell imo.

[Canadian Outrage]

Lucy remember I mentioned this last week. I had coffee with my Dutch friend here and he told me that very thing. Holland is a cesspool of the most IMMORAL people. They are as bad as any third world country. They are a totally CORRUPT society. My Dutch friend who has lived here for 25 years says he and his wife will NEVER go back to Holland again. He was telling me that they are just Nazi's - killing babies that aren't "perfect". They say sick but it's a lot more wide ranging than that. Holland is set to go to Hell imo.

[Canadian Outrage]

Geez - CREEPY!! What a nice place huh? anybody who visits Aruba is OUT OF THEIR MIND!!

[LucyT]

This is in today's news:
Posted on 06 Oct 2005 # IANS

World War II bomb disrupts flights at Amsterdam's airport
Amsterdam:
Flight traffic at Amsterdam's Schipol airport has been severely disrupted by the discovery of a World War II bomb, air traffic authorities said Thursday.

http://www.newkerala.com/news.php?action=fullnews&id=31402

[Canadian Outrage]

Interesting Lucy. You mean the Dutch have some enemies? LOL

[bonfire]

Me and you both. Anyone ever touches my kids..............

[Canadian Outrage]

YUP!! But then add on all this outright ABUSE Beth has had to take, I'd lose it I'm sure.

[Canadian Outrage]

Did you see that they identified Taylor Behl's body? I just know that that 38 year old creep did it. The things they took from his apartment make me think he's probably a serial killers. A box of bones, sex toys, women's clothing, a ton of pictures, child pornography, and God knows what else. Sick!!

[bonfire]

Yes. All the warning signs were there for that guy. He "icked" me out when I first saw him on TV. You know his defense is going to be that he didn't take his meds. ho hum. Fry him.

[Abigail Adams]

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[shebacal]

http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/

Aruba Getagrip
A compilation of translated Aruban media articles regarding the Natalee Holloway investigation.

Wednesday, October 05, 2005
Editorial: Natalee: Details are coming out!
Jossy Mansur - DIARIO Aruba
10/05/2005

During the last two airings of Nancy Grace on Headline News, Beth and Jug Twitty revealed some details that I was not aware of, in relation to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba. Additionally, I was also able to watch an interview with Joran in Holland, in which he throws all the blame of what happened on Natalee.

As the great liar that he is, he wanted to escape blame by accusing the missing girl of all sorts of weaknesses and flaws and paints himself as a gallant movie star. Joran, according from what I could conclude from the interview, did not break (…), and did not do anything, he tried rejecting Natalee’s advances, left her on the beach, and went home. Abandoning her on the beach was, for Joran, very normal!

From a habitual liar, I didn’t expect anything else. Together with his last statement and every other statement he made, which severely contradict each other, I don’t know.

What I do know is that he hasn’t spoken one word of truth during his interview with A Current Affair. All of a sudden, he forgets his own declaration that he left Natalee at the Holiday Inn, where she tripped and then was helped by two security guards; in his other declaration where he goes with Natalee on the beach North of the Marriott, and went to sleep with her on the sand.

Now, Natalee fell asleep, he left and thought that Deepak returned near where Natalee was, raped and killed her. All the statements he made earlier, he forgot in his voluntary amnesia. Now that he is in Holland, he became a saint!
In the shows of Nancy Grace yesterday and the day before, Beth and Jug made revelations which demonstrate uncategorically that the three suspects committed sexual assault against Natalee. This is also confirmed by their own admissions during the interrogations which took place in June. How then can Joran describe Natalee’s underwear in detail, and also her most intimate parts?

With his statement in Holland, Joran has reopened the wound. People can understand if he spoke the truth, but he preferred to continue with his many lies.

At DIARIO, we always thought that Joran, Deepak and Satish never went with Natalee from Carlos and Charlies to the beach North of the Marriott, but that they went to Joran’s apartment, where the above-mentioned took place. That they went to the beach to get rid of her after is possible and even probable.

One fact that hasn’t been completely explored in the first group of fishermen, in the same early morning hours that Natalee disappeared, one or more people broken the doors 1, 2, and 3 of the fishermens’ huts and kept what was in them.
The watchman of the first crew of fishermen observed that the only things missing was a large knife and a large basket. For what do you need a large knife and a basket? They could have used the knife to open the basket to put Natalee’s body, along with some rocks, then go throw it in the sea, far off the coast with a collaborator?

This is a theory which gained more strength when a detector made by an American in Aruba detected human bones, teeth and and iron in the sea! Coincidence? Maybe, but it’s worth investigating the matter more in depth.

Natalee’s case will not disappear. Now that Joran opened his mouth in Holland, he made it again a current event. The irony of all this is that Arubians don’t have anything to do with the case.

The principal suspects is Dutch, the lead investigator was Dutch, the prosecutor is Dutch and the five judges involved are Dutch. If you think about it, an attempted boycott against Aruba is unjust, because it is misdirected and won’t achieve the desired results.

In a democracy, the executive branch cannot intervene in the judicial one. No matter how much pressure is put upon the government, it cannot give any sort of order to the prosecutor nor the judges. On the contrary, ‘trias politica’ can’t work
I have full understanding of the suffering of Natalee’s mom and the uncertainty of the rest of the family. All the want is the truth, to find their child, no matter what condition she may be in, to then put the matter behind and return to their home to resume their lives.

Try putting yourself in her place, that you have a child who has disappeared in the hands of three suspicious individuals, the principal one set free because he wants to continue his studies.

Because of that America is questioning so severely the handing down of justice in Aruba, because things have happened which make no sense, have no justification and can’t be explained legally nor rationally.

[translated by Getagrip]

posted by Getagrip at 5:05 PM

[LucyT]

detected human bones, teeth and and iron in the sea!

When were these things found? Or, are these the arm bones discussed a month or two ago? Wasn't there a discussion of donkey bones and teeth?