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Posted on 08/26/2005 4:40:09 PM PDT by TexKat
Surinamese Deepak Kalpoe, 21, arrives to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Aruban police arrested Kalpoe and his brother Satish, 18, along with a third person according to government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg, saying he doesn't know if the arrests are connected to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. The two brothers had been previously detained and released. (AP Photo/Pedro Famous Diaz)
Surinamese Satish Kalpoe, 18, front, gets in a car to go to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Two Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, who had been detained and released in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway were arrested again Friday based on new evidence, officials said. The brothers were detained on suspicion of involvement, with unidentified 'other people,' in premeditated murder and rape, the prosecutor's office said. Person to the right is unidentified. (AP Photo/Farrah Boekhoudt)
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Dave is against a boycott so that idea is dead. Dave could find more answers if he was willing to...
Lets just say if I was the father I would get the answers.
I think Dave knows something that he dosen't want to get out.
Bookmark for later.
From 9-27 post
When asked why was it heated on August 28, JUG said, “Because I think I was asking questions that she didn’t know that I knew about, things that she wouldn’t tell me and I was confronting her with, you know, things like the blood in the car. If you’ll remember, way early on in the investigation, even the prime minister came and said, Yes, they found blood in the car. The FBI said they found blood in the car. She says they didn’t. She says they — I know for a fact that they cut parts out of the seat, cut parts out of the ceiling of Deepak’s car, and they sent them wherever to get tested. And she said no. Initially, the FBI said there was blood all over the car, but then they came back and said now it’s cleaning fluid. And I went ballistic in the meeting.
On 9-27 a second part of Primary Suspect J. SLOOT’s filmed interview by WAGSHULL with “A Current Affair” was shown. BETH said, “The entire summer has been a lie”. “The FBI never received a single document in the investigation, audio or taped evidence. The FBI told her when a Dutch Official arrived at Quantico for the expressed purpose of sharing documents no papers or tapes were ever turned over to the Americans.”
“The FBI told me they never released the documents, the audio or video tapes evidence to them.” “They wanted the DNA because of the fluids they found in the car. They found fluids in the care in back seat of that gray Honda and on the roof.”
A Current Affair Interview; Joran Van der Sloot and Beth Twitty’s Reaction (“The entire summer has been a lie”)
by Scared Monkeys
Current Affair ran the second part of their interview yesterday and although some of it was repetitious there were a couple of parts that were a bit eye opening. As the AP has reported:
The mother of a missing Alabama teen said Tuesday that a Dutch man was lying when he denied that he and two other youths had sex with the young woman before she disappeared during a trip to Aruba.
“He admitted this to the interrogators,” she said. “He admitted this in front of 10 witnesses in the early morning hours of May 31st of the sexual assault that he committed against Natalee. So, yes, that is a fact.”
In the continuation of the Current Affair interview Beth Twitty states she has seen once again references the statements that Joran Van der Sloot made.
Based on statements she said she saw Joran Van der Sloot admitted to the sex. “Drove to his home, wanted her to come in … had sex with her”.
Aruban officials have not released any of the statements to the public.
Beth Twitty then goes on to say in the interview the accounts of the statements down to the graphic and explicit details of Natalee’s undergarments as well as other graphic details that Beth does not get into. Joran and co-suspects Deepak & Satish Kalpoe. Got Natalee drunk at the bar, took Natalee from the bar and then sexually assaulted her.
Since such documents have never been released and by Dutch law presumable cannot until the entire investigation or trial is over this presents a puzzling problem of verification. If it is true that Joran made these comments and has such detail of Natalee it brings into question again the fact that he claims not to have sex with her whether it be consensual or not.
Beth Twitty is asked about the FBI and where that investigation stands at this point. The comments that Beth makes are startling. Beth alleges the following in referencing the FBI investigation during the Current Affair interview.
What about the FBI. Beth …? “The entire summer has been a lie”.
The FBI never received a single document in the investigation, audio or taped evidence. The FBI told her when a Dutch Official arrived at Quantico for the expressed purpose of sharing documents no papers or tapes were ever turned over to the Americans.
“The FBI told me they never released the documents, the audio or video tapes evidence to them.”.
Beth Twitty then went on to discuss the DNA evidence that was taken from the Kalpoe’s car that has never yet in her words been reported.
“They wanted the DNA because of the fluids they found in the car. They found fluids in the care in back seat of that gray Honda and on the roof.”
Beth claim that an Aruban government official made a statement that blood evidence was found and removed from the Kalpoe’s car. But to date no results have ever been made public.
One of the the more shocking and sad comments of the interview was the anguish, hurt and despair that obviously a parent goes through in losing a child and having no end or beginning as to where the investigation was going. The trauma of being put through the ups and downs of a search and investigation. Beth sadly adds,
“If someone brought her out alive that would shock me at this point”.
“There is no shock value anymore. “That country has dragged me through hell.”
Beth said that Aruban officials put her and her family through episode after episode of torture. Late night emergency phone calls that Natalee was first found safe then that Natalee’s body had been recovered. And all of it ultimately untrue.
“She’s on the side of the road raped and murdered. She’s alive walking down the street with some crack head named Wendi.”
We later learn the Beth Twitty will be going to Holland near where Joran Van der Sloot is going to school to put up missing person’s posters of her daughter, Natalee Holloway. We are left with one final comment.
“The suspects cannot hide from the truth whatever that is”.
Video of interview from the Political Teen
This entry was posted on Wednesday, September 28th, 2005 at 11:05 am and is filed under Natalee Holloway, Aruba, Joran Van der Sloot, Beth Twitty.
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Remember JVDS:
This picture of Joran should be shown on the posters Beth will be distributing.
It probably would make more of an impression than the reward money.
Yes the kidnap posters should include the three that were last seen with Natalee. These posters should be spread across Europe as well as Aruba. Shine the light of truth ... Everytime Joran goes to a bar someone should walk up and say "aren't you the guy that...".
Beth is and has been hurting so much. I don't know how the men that love her and Natalee can sit on their hands. Just from the bits and pieces of Beth I saw on the news... I will never forget how she loved her daughter and what a great effort she put forth to fight to get her back.
I pray Beth see's some justice served before too many more months pass.
LOL - good to see you too. What a terrible picture that day. My hair went FLAT!! If I remember it was quite windy.
Yes sir!! But it is a TERRIBLE picture. We got blown to bits that day.
I also feel that Dave is incredibly naive!!
Yes! He seems to trust everyone in Aruba! Despite a ton of reason not to trust them. It makes me wonder what is wrong with Dave. I question the way he has been responding to the rape and murder of his beloved daughter. Perhaps he fears losing control of his emotions. I once met a man that appeared to have a very calm religious nature. It turned out that he was an incredible hot-head and that he used religion and denial of the world around him to control his temper.... eventually the volcano blew up! It was something to see. Reminds me of the Kenny Rogers Song... Coward of the county.
Honestly I think Dave thinks that if he "shows" some faith in the Prosecution and Aruban system that maybe they will do something for him. In reality they are playing him for a complete fool while they piss away the TWO year period of being able to legally do ANYTHING. The INTENT to ever solve this crime was not there. I'll bet you they DESTROYED evidence, blood and DNA evidence. They know it, we know it. Dave prefers NOT to know it. JMO
Hey J,
The Netherlands will destroy themselves from within.
"So shall it be written and So shall it be done"
Of Pharohs and Emperors,
NSNR-CSAOTL
Did you see this on FR?
What I was saying about Dave knowing something was probably covered in the post from Scared Monkeys. I think Dave is playing the nice guy because he simply wants his daughter's remains to be buried at home. He may know in more detail what actually happened to Natalee and doesn't want it to be spread all over the Internet. He wants friends, family, and the world to remember Natalee as the smiling teen in her graduation picture. He doesn't want her to associated with whatever horrible things that he knows happened to her.
I'm sure that he feels that if he plays the Aruban game and kisses the right asses, maybe, just maybe he will be able to recover her remains and bring his daughter home.
We know that Natalee was raped. We assume that other horrible things including death were inflicted upon her. We know that there was an extensive cover-up that went from top to bottom in the Aruban government.What I want to know is why?
WHY????
TAW
You know I just had coffee last week with my Dutch friend here and he was telling me that they are euthanizing babies in Holland now. He and his wife will NEVER go back they said. It's a cesspool.
LOL - thank you Malichi. Actually tho do you really think that the Aruban system would even "want" to discover a body and then have to actually "charge" a crime. I've always had the feeling that they don't want to CHARGE anybody. You know, "no body, no case". Straight from the horses mouth!! Don't you think it would be a little more helpful, if only for natalee's sake, that Dave could get on the same page as Beth and Jug?
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=229539#229539
Weird things have been happening on RWV. The NH threads are probably on life support and not for lack of posters. The guy who owns the blog, Dan, has gotten stranger and stranger. The site by now had probably less than 10 people who post there that are sane; most are Aruban government spinners with umpteen names talking to one another or really nasty sick Dutch posters. It makes me feel like I'm on a porno site to read there! Dan was co-opted a good while ago by somebody (Julia Renfro?) from the Aruban gov't spin machine. A couple of nites ago, he must have been drunk, went on a rampage, and started posting (w/obscenities) on the forum all sorts of "inside info" he claimed to be privy to and echoing Deepak's description of NH as a "drunken slut," implying she deserved what she got and banning posters who won't buy what the gov't is selling. Claims he has pix of NH "misbehaving" at C&C the nite she vanished. Says all US networks know SHE came on to and picked up Joran and so does Beth, and are hiding it from us. Says Joran left her at the beach like he said because he had to go to school in the a.m.(LOL) and she must have gone off with someone else because Joran would not do the deed with her! Today, the handful of posters left who are not berserko either quit or were banned by him and the site is like 99% devoted to trashing NH and her family. Aruba must really pay well is all I have to say.
Jossy Mansur was in the hospital and apparently had a heart attack a couple of weeks ago. Monday's DIARIO says he's leaving the island for medical care. Everyone is wondering if he came here (if they would let him in - some posters say he is not able to get a visa for US) or went to the Netherlands.
Last, according to the interview Joran gave to A Current Affair, he is in business school at Arnheim. Someone at SM noticed his dad lurking in the background of the film. Nobody believes he was accosted by the reporter. Most believe it was all arranged, scripted, and probably repeatedly taped and edited until it suited the VDS spin machine.
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