Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 16

To: Canadian Outrage

Great to hear from you again.

I found a photo HERE.

The rally report thread is at Rally For America Reports from Austin Texas[Operation Infinite Freep]

2,221 posted on 09/28/2005 3:46:40 PM PDT by DrewsDad

To: Yellow Jacket

Ah, you accept this:
"> The prosecutor had a meeting with Dave (I'm not sure when) and was trying to say there was a million dollar life
> insurance policy on Natalee (Jug says no). She also tried to say Natalee was having problems with Jug/Beth and or/her father.

This angle certainly needs to be investigated further. If true, it could be like the plot of "Man on Fire". Just with the girl being older and no Denzel Washington."

Over the actual tape conversation of Deepak, stating all three had sex while Natalee was coming in and out of consciousness?

Your standards of proof are interesting.

I've watched you twist and turn as fast as you can away from the one+one=two process of deduction.

Where is that can of bug spray?

2,222 posted on 09/28/2005 3:47:40 PM PDT by Rusty Roberts ( Always harder to keep murder secret than egg to bounce on sidewalk.)

Evening Palladin,
Yes, you are spot on DA Jansen taking her stress break vacation in the middle of a homicide investigation.

I watched her facial expressions on one of the news channels, she had no desire to solve this case.

Jansen is a typical Euro-trash woman who probably takes a bath once every two weeks. Oh I almost forgot, she probably has those grossly hairy unshaven legs of a 12th century tavern bar keep.

Arubans and the Dutch are on my "Persona Non Grata" list indefinitely.

Maybe one day Pvds/Urine/Alpos Yo's will hear the AT&T song of being reached out to by someone and touched fatally.

"When the law doe not enforce the law, then there is no law."
I'll Take My Stand,
NSNR-CSAOTL

2,223 posted on 09/28/2005 4:16:10 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat

To: Rusty Roberts

Passing the bug be gone ---

2,224 posted on 09/28/2005 4:35:06 PM PDT by justche (The worst moment for the atheist is when he is really thankful and has nobody to thank.)

To: Canadian Outrage

Evening my Gracious CO,
If shrillary is elected, you will see the civil war part 2 take place in America. It will not be North versus South, but Good versus Evil.

Maybe we will get lucky and the Oldsmosub boy will expire soon due to fatulence(over-porked-death)

The people in Ma. must be brain dead, retarded, bi-polar, are on the almighty crack pipe to keep electing K&K(kennedy&kerry) to office.

"For in stealth I descended to the middle chamber into the lair of the demonic one. I knew in my heart that my covenant, my sword and the arm of the lord would insure I prevailed in my righteous crusade against evil."

My Family Honor,
NSNR-CSAOTL

2,225 posted on 09/28/2005 4:42:39 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat

To: No Surrender No Retreat; All

figures this would happen in the Netherlands....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1493196/posts?page=1

2,226 posted on 09/28/2005 5:21:48 PM PDT by justche (The worst moment for the atheist is when he is really thankful and has nobody to thank.)

To: Canadian Outrage

Damn, CO, is that you?

TAW

2,227 posted on 09/28/2005 6:15:46 PM PDT by Malichi (!)

Although I agree with a boycott, I disagree it is the only way to get justice. It might be the only way to get legal justice, but there are other means for justice. Either one works for me...which ever comes first.

2,228 posted on 09/28/2005 7:06:06 PM PDT by RGVTx

Dave is on Greta right now

2,229 posted on 09/28/2005 7:18:04 PM PDT by justche (The worst moment for the atheist is when he is really thankful and has nobody to thank.)

To: Canadian Outrage

This pathetic prosecutor has been doing NOTHING for Beth or Natalee since the beginning.

I knew that from the beginning....It was obvious as a blackeye.

The few times she met w/Beth, was to pacify her and her supporters. Janssen was playing a game. Nothing more, nothing less.

Janssen is and has to be for Aruba.

2,230 posted on 09/28/2005 7:23:23 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

I don't know how Dave stays so calm and diplomatic.
He is still trying to work within the Aruban system. He did stress discussing the state of communication between the family and prosecutor and LE.

Says prosecutor says all leads will be fully investigated. I fear Dave is putting too much faith into the Aruban system.

Dave believes prosecutor and investigators really want to solve this case.

Dave prefers to wait for maximum potential for conviction before charges are filed.

Dave thinks they were real close to getting answers when Kalpoes were re-arrested. Can't understand why all were released which ended the info flow that had begun. Suspects were beginning to point fingers at each other.

2,231 posted on 09/28/2005 7:31:21 PM PDT by RGVTx

To: Rusty Roberts; Yellow Jacket

Rusty, here's that can:

Here's another way to get rid of yellow jackets:

2,232 posted on 09/28/2005 7:37:55 PM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)

http://www.timesleader.com/mld/dailynews/12759734.htm
Posted on Wed, Sep. 28, 2005
MISSING TEEN'S MOM HERE

Will retain local lawyer to get Aruba to move on case of missing Natalee Holloway

By GLORIA CAMPISI

campisg@phillynews.com

BETH TWITTY, mother of Alabama teen Natalee Holloway, missing in Aruba, plans to meet today with an international attorney in Philadelphia to see if there is anything more she can do to find her missing daughter.

Twitty, on her way here last night in a limousine provided by businessman and philanthropist Joe Mammana, who has contributed $250,000 in reward money in Natalee's case, declined to name the attorney.

"I want to see what my options are, and how do I go about pursuing those," Twitty said.

Natalee, 18, an honors student, hasn't been seen since May 30, the night before she and other students from her Alabama high school were to return home from a senior week trip to the Caribbean island.

Aruban authorities arrested seven men in her disappearance. including two Surinamese brothers and their friend, Dutch teen Jaron Van der Sloot, 17. They were last seen leaving a bar with Holloway the night of her disappearance.

Van der Sloot allegedly has given conflicting statements to Aruban authorities.

All seven have been released, four of them, including van der Sloot's father, a magistrate, early in the investigation.

Van der Sloot and brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe were released on Sept. 3.

"They did it [released the young men] under the cloak of Katrina," when national attention was drawn away from Holloway's case by the hurricane, Mammana said angrily. He said he has been involved in the case almost since it's inception, after learning about it on KYW radio, and talked daily with Twitty when she was in Aruba and "several times a week" to her husband.

Mammana has provided numerous rewards in cases of crime victims and missing persons, among them LaToyia Figueroa, the missing pregnant Philadelphia woman later found slain, allegedly by the father of her child.

Mammana said he would take Twitty before City Council at its weekly session tomorrow . "They want to acknowledge her. I'm going to bring her in with Councilman Jack Kelly," he said.

Van der Sloot is now studying at a university in Amsterdam.

Twitty said last night she would travel to Holland to publicize the case.

"We've had reward posters printed in Dutch. We wanted to make sure it's out in Amsterdam and in the Hague," she said. Aruba is a Dutch protectorate.

"We are so determined," Twitty said. "We just feel like if we just continue, that something will break." She said she wanted to put pressure on Aruban judicial officials to go further with the case.

"These three young men cannot commit the perfect crime," Twitty said.

She said she believed enough pressure would crack one of the suspects "and we will finally find out what happened to Natalee and where she is."

Twitty said her family still has hope that Natalee will be found safe. "It doesn't look good, but as parents you always have that hope. It's what keeps you going."

Twitty said she feared van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers kidnapped Natalee, "raped her and murdered her. I'm certain they drugged her. That's my worst-case scenario.

"We know the facts. All three of these men have admitted to having sex with her, that constitutes a gang rape."

Van der Sloot and the brothers originally told investigators they had dropped Holloway off at her hotel the night of her disappearance, prompting authorities to arrest two security guards.

Van der Sloot later said he had been on a beach with Holloway but had left her, unharmed.

Dutch Marines, Aruban police and thousands of volunteers have scoured the tiny island, which says has about 71,000 residents, but have found no sign of Holloway. Searching by divers was going on as recently as several days ago but has turned up nothing, Twitty said authorities had told her.

"They're telling me the case is open," she said.

Twitty said previously the investigation by Aruban officials showed a "level of ineptness [that] has been incredible."

Yesterday, Twitty said she believed Natalee's case had been "mishandled. I would say that there is some level of collusion and corruption that has been going on in the investigation."

Mammana called Aruba "a Third World ghetto," where crimes against American tourists go unreported, and said he planned to help Twitty launch a nationwide boycott of the Caribbean nation.

Mammana, a businessman whose investments include suburban real estate and dairy and egg farming, said he would help Twitty find lawyers to press Aruban authorities to go on with the case.

"We're going to hound and harass these people forever," he said.

"The Aruban government and anybody else involved with this, that we feel did not cooperate and help us.

"We're not doing this for money," Mammana said.

"We're doing this for revenge. Forget justice."

2,233 posted on 09/28/2005 9:21:38 PM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)

"We're doing this for revenge. Forget justice."

Good! Aruba forgot the justice, so we can too!

2,234 posted on 09/28/2005 9:28:24 PM PDT by justche (The worst moment for the atheist is when he is really thankful and has nobody to thank.)

I like the way Mammana thinks!
First he says he believes in "two eyes for an eye."
Now it's "doing this for revenge, forget justice.

I like their plan to haunt Joran wherever he goes. Plaster the Netherlands with flyers then watch and listen.

2,235 posted on 09/28/2005 9:36:24 PM PDT by RGVTx

Beth is going to put up reward posters in Holland and publicize Natalee's case there. Urine may get a surprise when he walks past reward posters as he enters and leaves his school.

I hope he starts to feel like he can run, but he can't hide. Hopefully Natalee's case will hang around his neck like a albatross.

2,236 posted on 09/28/2005 9:41:58 PM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)

I'm glad Beth has Mammana's support. And that she is meeting with an international attorney in Philadelphia. I just caught a couple of minutes of the end of an interview today where Beth was sitting next to a man I couldn't place. I wish I knew if that was Mammana or the Philadelphia attorney.

2,237 posted on 09/28/2005 9:49:21 PM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)

Thanks shebacal for the good post above.

I'm glad that someone is keeping this case going on here.

If you find anything about Beth looking for volunteers to go to Holland please post it.

Of course I'll probably be put back on the plane after some of my rants on here.

TAW

2,238 posted on 09/28/2005 9:50:57 PM PDT by Malichi (!)

Pinging TexKat!!!

Hey TK, the weekend is coming up and it's time to start a new thread.

Please, TK.

2,239 posted on 09/28/2005 9:54:49 PM PDT by Malichi (!)

As I recall, Mammana is slim and dark haired...wore an expensive looking suit. Somewhat favors the actor Andy Garcia. A bit more rugged looking.

2,240 posted on 09/28/2005 11:00:37 PM PDT by RGVTx

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