Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 16

Various News Outlets | 8/26/05

[TexKat]

Surinamese Deepak Kalpoe, 21, arrives to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Aruban police arrested Kalpoe and his brother Satish, 18, along with a third person according to government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg, saying he doesn't know if the arrests are connected to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. The two brothers had been previously detained and released. (AP Photo/Pedro Famous Diaz)

Surinamese Satish Kalpoe, 18, front, gets in a car to go to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Two Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, who had been detained and released in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway were arrested again Friday based on new evidence, officials said. The brothers were detained on suspicion of involvement, with unidentified 'other people,' in premeditated murder and rape, the prosecutor's office said. Person to the right is unidentified. (AP Photo/Farrah Boekhoudt)

[LucyT]

It was an interview with TJ Ward and CATHERINE CRIER from Court TV: Court TV Sept. 26

[justche]

I have a feeling that we'd find things that mrs. vanderstupid would be surprised happening in Holland. Why didn't she go back with them?

[LucyT]

I thought the whole family went back to Holland, but maybe not.

This was in the interview:

CC: He is living with his father, so what kind of schedule does he seem to be keeping? What is PVDS doing?

DV: His father brings him to school most mornings, sometimes he goes home on the train.

They have spent a lot of time attending soccer matches around Europe.

They have been to England, are planning a trip to Macedonia.

His father certainly doesn’t seem to be keeping a tight rein on him.

[justche]

I'll see if I can find what source made me think Anita and her other son was staying in Aruba?

DL, do you remember seeing anything about this?

[LucyT]

More from the interview:

We have been keeping tabs on Joran for a couple of weeks in Arnhem.

He is here living with his father outside a small town outside the city of Arnhem and attending business school.
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CC: What about the people in the town where he is living? Do they seem to know much about the story?

DV: No I don’t think they do. Certainly his classmates at school certainly know his history. He has made no attempt to hide it.

I don’t think that anyone in the little town where he is living would have a clue about his background.

[Palladin]

So, the Party Boys are off for a vacation in Macedonia. Is that like Roumania, where they have 13 year old prostitutes?

[Palladin]

Pinging Tex Kat. Where did she go? This case is heating up.

[justche]

So...should we be crass and start a pool? Who ends up breaking and under what circumstance? I think if Paulus or Joran were managed correctly (and I'm not talking physically hurt necessarily) they would break. They just don't seem like strong men to me.

[b9]

DL, do you remember seeing anything about this?

IIRC Anita was going to resume her teaching job in Aruba, J & P free.
Don't recollect a source.

[RGVTx]

Hi DL...just marking my spot.

[No Surrender No Retreat]

Morning J,
I think it is rather hilarious how the state department keeps professing the muzlims(three step krait snakes) are in reality a non posionous green snake.

I believe the SD has let the, "give peace a chance crowd" disrupt logical coherent foreign policy to include national security.

For as the flock rushed forth to embrace the hand of a supposed glowing angel. I stood on the mountain of Zion. My vantage point truly revealed the demon portrayed as an angel of mercy. Thus hoodwinked and unchecked the flock met their demise at the hands of dark evil.

P.C. kills and too, many of the klintoon hired employees in the state department remain.

One a cannot trust a "viper" in the baby's crib.

"They said they were there to help, but my acute blindness allowed me to truly see, the blood on their lambskins of supposed innocence."

Bunker Talk,
NSNR-AS

[Yellow Jacket]

> This case is far from over. Look at the Moxley case and how long that took to be resolved. In fact, I wouldn't be
> surprised if Joran started bragging about the murder at some point.

Sure, there is always a possibility for a lucky break at some time in the future. But it is unlikely. Also, you seem pretty certain that Joran murdered her. Why?

> Aruba isn't that large and it seems like there's plenty of construction going on. You never know what might turn up someday.

Well, after 4 months of 90+ ° temperatures and high humiditz I do not think there is much to turn up at this point anyway.

[No Surrender No Retreat]

Morning Lucy T,
Urine is probably viewed with respect in holland.(universities/communities) He earned his Euro-Trash cobble-stone street creds, by drugging, raping and murdering an American girl.(Anti-Americanism) status quo Euro-Trash mindset.

Pvds&alpo bros were complicit in the crime as well.
They all need to take a dirt nap for the good of Mother Justice.

Query this, if this had been a Dutch girl(Aruban) drugged, gang raped and murdered in America? Well the UN(Kofi)ACLU, Anarchists, CPUSA and the Democrats would be demonstrating.(No Justice, No Peace in America)

The state department would be jumping through their asses, in bringing the perps to justice. P.S. plus some good old (American reparations) to the family of the deceased. "Shopping(stealing)made simple, Dutch-Emer-Card.

There was once a traditional philosophy in America called, "taking care of our own." It is a sad day, "when an American's blood is shed and the wicked go unpunished."

"Mom, Apple Pie, Chevrolets, Blue Skies and God Bless America."

There is the way things are and the way they ought to be,
NSNR-CSAOTL-PLT

[MAWG]

PLEASE, Dont anyone respond to this PUKE.

It only wants attention. It cares nothing about Natalee or Beth. Ignore it, PLEASE.

[Yellow Jacket]

> I hope the same fate that befell a young man who took a vacation there (he's still missing) or Natalee, does not happen to you.

What young man? If you mean the honeymooner on the cruiseship, he wasn't on Aruba at all.

Aruba has a very low crime rate. Certainly, there is no such thing as total safety, but Aruba is safer than most places in the US. Putting this one case in the media is just skewing the facts and presenting a totally wrong picture to the public at large.

That is the beef I have with Greta, Nancy Grace, Dr. Phil and others who keep harping on this one case. It is one missing person. Sure, it is a tragedy for her family. Sure, I expect local Birmingham paper to keep covering it. But not the national media. That's just rediculous.

And Beth's crusade is becomming more and more like a witchhunt against Joran. She claims to have evidence of rape , and she is pinning that on statements of going in and out of consciousness that she hasn't produced. She also said once that her daughter was a virgin (yeah right!) and I think that is why she is harping on the rape angle that much - they admitted to having sex with her and they they both were drinking, Beth believes in perpetual virginity of her daughetr and is convicned any sex she had was rape.
Look, if the evidence she claims she has was real, the authorities would have charged them with rape. The prosecution was very eager to have the case against the boys stick and they would not have passed up an oportunity like that. That they haven't makes me believe Beth's "evidence" is just BS.

[MAWG]

See what I mean guys. Ignore this PUKING SLUG!

[Yellow Jacket]

> See what I mean guys. Ignore this PUKING SLUG!

How about you try and refute what I said like an adult instead of resorting to infantile insults?

[MAWG]

This PUKE/SLUG is like a large ITCHING ROID deep in your ass. You try to scratch it and you're likely to do more harm than good.

Ignore the itch to respond , PLEASE.

[MAWG]

Did you see the interview with Urine last night on O'Reilly? His body language and posture in general showed him to be entirely defensive. I hope someone puts a voice-stress analyzer on that interview.I'm sure it will show him to be a liar.

[wndycndy]

I saw Joran's "interview" on O'Reilly last night. I found a lot of it very interesting. Especially when Joran said he had no feelings toward Natalie whatsoever except physical attraction. I thought he sounded like a predatory sociopath when he said that, and that is what I think he is.
I am sure Papa Vandersloot was sweating and screaming "Shut up Joran!" when he saw his son babbling on and on and on. Joran is stupid. He could never get away with this on his own. He is guilty as sin, it is written all over his pimply face.