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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 16
Various News Outlets | 8/26/05

Posted on 08/26/2005 4:40:09 PM PDT by TexKat

Surinamese Deepak Kalpoe, 21, arrives to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Aruban police arrested Kalpoe and his brother Satish, 18, along with a third person according to government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg, saying he doesn't know if the arrests are connected to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. The two brothers had been previously detained and released. (AP Photo/Pedro Famous Diaz)

Surinamese Satish Kalpoe, 18, front, gets in a car to go to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Two Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, who had been detained and released in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway were arrested again Friday based on new evidence, officials said. The brothers were detained on suspicion of involvement, with unidentified 'other people,' in premeditated murder and rape, the prosecutor's office said. Person to the right is unidentified. (AP Photo/Farrah Boekhoudt)


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To: Yaelle

They are about as evil as any three murderers can be. How many other girls did they do this to, on the evening before the girls were to leave for the U.S.?

Beth is even more determined to bring these three to justice. She has Deepak Kalpoe's confession (to a private detective) on tape. She said last night on "Big Story" that Deepak admitted the gang rape took place at Joran's apartment.

Where was the phony judge during this outrage? Was he a viewer or participant?


2,121 posted on 09/26/2005 1:45:34 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: All
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1670#more-1670

Beth Twitty Live in NYC, Fox “The Big Story”
by Scared Monkeys

Last night on Fox’s “The Big Story” Beth Holloway Twitty was live on set in NYC discussing the disappearance of her daughter Natalee Holloway and Joran Van der Sloot’s consistent disregard to take responsibility for anything.

Hat Tip: BamaLady for unofficial account of interview

"Natalee’s mother, Beth Holloway Twitty is here with us. Beth, how do you feel things are going down there in Aruba?

BETH: Well, when I hear that the search is continuing for Natalee of course that is something that Jug and her father and I so desperately hope continues. One thing that really concerns me though is the statements that they have from Joran and also there has been a taped confession from Deepak, and they are clearly stating how Natalee is coming in and out of consciousness. Joran has already admitted to having sex with Natalee at his home at 1:40 am. Why, though, they were not brought charges against for rape I just don’t understand.

And now there is this new interview that Joran did with A Current Affair. Tell us about that and tell us why you are so angry about it.

BETH: It is typical of Joran, and it is so ironic when you listen to his video tape. He is not to blame for anything. He is placing the blame on the tourism, that they say it is down in Aruba and he is placing that on me. He is placing, as far as Natalee being drunk, he has even admitted during this interview that he buys her the shot that he buys her the drink, and he is blaming her for being drunk. It is like he does not accept responsibility for anything that has gone on when he is the one who is completely responsible for this. He is the reason why Aruba, that the tourism is down.

Let’s talk about the tourism. Are you asking for a boycott of Aruba?

BETH: What I am asking for is for the millions of people who have supported me through their thoughts and prayers through emails through cards and letters to please consider refraining from traveling to Aruba and other Dutch Kingdom territories until Natalee is returned to me, because they CAN make this happen! The answers are there, we have the three individuals, three suspects including Paulus Van der Sloot that have the answers to what happened and where Natalee is.

But if Joran is now in Holland, Aruba really isn’t involved with him in particular, who you hold primarily responsible, correct?"

So it appears that in advance of the Joran Van der Sloot “A Current Affair” interview Beth Twitty is going to do the LIVE Talk show circuit in NYC to ask tourists not to go to Aruba until her daughter Natalee is returned. I will guess that she will be live on MSM cable shows all day tomorrow. The Joran “Current Affair” interview may have been a colossal mistake in regards to Aruba. Then again, I doubt very much whether Joran cares what happens in Aruba seeing that he has fled to Holland.


"BETH: Yes, (Joran is primarily responsible) absolutely.

So then Aruban authorities who are conducting these searches, do you feel that they should still be doing more than that?

BETH: I feel that Joran should be brought back for charges to be filed against him for kidnapping and rape. I think it has become crystal clear exactly what he has done to Natalee. Whether they went ahead and murdered her after a gang rape I don’t know that but Depak has admitted in a taped confession to Jamie Skeeters that they all had sex with Natalee and Joran clearly has Natalee coming in and out of consciousness. If that does not constitute gang rape then I don’t know what does.

So at this point Beth hat do you think happened to Natalee?

BETH: Well, I don’t know what they did with her after that but what I do know is that Joran clearly has Natalee drunk or drugged as she is coming in and out of consciousness. He specifically states that he has sex with her at his home, and we have Depak with a taped confession that they all had sex. I know that is what happened. What they did with her after that no we don’t know, but it certainly seems like the list of inconsistencies and a reasonable doubt is clearly there.

Will you go back to Aruba to continue to stay on this case? You were there. You worked it. This is your daughter. Do you feel that you need to be there to get an answer?

BETH: Yes, yes and I will be returning within two weeks.

Alright Beth, thank you for being here and our thoughts and prayers obviously continue.
If anyone has information, it is still timely to give the authorities a call. Thank you so much.

BETH: Thank you."
2,122 posted on 09/26/2005 2:10:13 PM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: shebacal

Thaks for the transcript, sheba and Scared Monkeys.


2,123 posted on 09/26/2005 2:33:08 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: Palladin

I meant thanks.


2,124 posted on 09/26/2005 2:33:33 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: Palladin

This was posted earlier, but in case it was overlooked, check it out. Even if not true, Joran and the brothers will spend the remainder of their years looking over their shoulder. Wish Papa VDS was on the hit list.

JORAN: TARGETED FOR DEATH
Friday September 23, 2005

By DAVID WRIGHT

Police on two continents have been alerted to a plot to kill Joran van der Sloot and two other prime suspects in the case of missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway.

Authorities in Aruba, where Natalee vanished nearly four months ago, have warned cops in Holland that there's a price on Joran's head.

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/ne/20050923/112748760002.html


2,125 posted on 09/26/2005 3:24:08 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Palladin
She said last night on "Big Story" that Deepak admitted the gang rape took place at Joran's apartment.

I did not hear this. Holy H*ll.

Even if "Judge" Van der Sloot wasn't in the room at the time, how much do you want to bet that when they figured out they'd killed her, the first thing they did was run to Daddy?

This changes all the timelines, doesn't it? Those calls were made to and from the kids trying to dump her body. And since their whereabouts were seen (at school), Elder Sloot was probably the one who arranged for the later moving of her body once they realized someone CARED about this "object" the boys "used."

He must have paid some fisherman a hefty fee to dig her up and dump her. "Hey man, she's already dead... Keep quiet and in 3 months you'll get lots more..."

2,126 posted on 09/26/2005 3:32:52 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: No Surrender No Retreat
And they never searched the VDS home, did they? If they had searched the home that night, when Beth was outside, they would have found evidence with multiple DNA from all the guys. Who knows, maybe Natalee was still inside that home. Maybe the "Judge" knew that he could keep all search warrants at bay for long enough to get rid of everything. No doubt that is what happened.

Beth KNEW her daughter was in that home. She was right. When will Beth reveal anything about the phone calls that night? That came from Natalee?

2,127 posted on 09/26/2005 3:37:58 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle; TexKat; All

Natalee segments will be on BOR and Greta tonight.


2,128 posted on 09/26/2005 4:05:05 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: Palladin

I agree with you on many things. I don't on this one. I think the chance (however remote) that his girl is alive, or that someone knows where she is, would make him walk on fire. So if he has to be nice to people that he'd rather not be, he'd do it in a heartbeat. He's no idiot, he's a dad who is missing part of his heart. I think he deserves our support whether we agree with him 100% or not.


2,129 posted on 09/26/2005 4:23:05 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: justche

agreed.

What is inescapable is that ALL of the activities of ALL others combined to date (as well as those of Dave and Linda) have resulted in the status quo.

For me, the failure of the State Dept to intercede within the first 3 or 4 days allowed the coverup to proceed more than anything else.


2,130 posted on 09/26/2005 4:47:16 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

I haven't been able to figure that one out myself. But in all candidness, not terribly impressed with our state department of late.


2,131 posted on 09/26/2005 4:49:18 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: truthluva; Yaelle; TexKat; All

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1671#more-1671

Court TV Interview with TJ Ward, David Wright from the National Enquirer and CATHERINE CRIER
by Scared Monkeys

The Following is an interview with TJ Ward and CATHERINE CRIER from Court TV: Court TV Sept. 26

Some rather incredible accusations from TJ Ward again with regards to Paul Van der Sloot being involved with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. Also reporters from the National Enquirer giving some accounts and teasers for their Friday expose that seem to contradict the accounts that Joran Van der Sloot gave to “A Current Affair”. Joran contradict a story? Never. Here is the following account of the Court TV interview:

(Excerpt from Current Affair)
Joran: Obviously she was drunk. I had stuff to drink too. She wanted to go with me. I wanted to go with her. I was totally consensual.

CC: TJ, your thoughts about the interview?

TJ: Well, we still think that something happened to her, she passed out. Even according to Beth when she was on Dr. Phil the information from Joran that something happened, that she was in and out, in and out. We think something did happen to her and she apparently had a passed out had a heart attack, stopped breathing. We still believe that Paul Van der Sloot was called and he has a direct involvement with Natalee Holloway’s disappearance.

CC: You have insinuated, implied, talked about in conversation that you think Paul Van der Sloot had something to do with her disappearance. Possibly the removal of the body, even removing her from the island. What are your thoughts on that?

TJ: There is a possibility, things we are looking into. We just think right now that Paul Van der Sloot and some information that we are following right now that Paul Van der Sloot was directly involved with the disappearance and cover up of Natalee Holloway’s disappearance.

If you remember, that the story that was brought out on Dr. Phil, by Beth and the info she had from the police reports it always goes up to Joran being there, Deepak saying lets leave get rid of her. But there is never any final conclusion as to what happened to her after that and what caused her disappearance. Some of the information that we have is that Paul Van der Sloot said no body, no case. We have gathered information and are still receiving information and are following up on it. We are doing this pro bono, and as I told Beth when we got involved if she will trust us, we will find Natalee.

CC: From the info you have, do you think she is dead, buried on the island, buried at sea or taken off the island and moved to another country?

TJ: Some of this information we have, we are not going to expose right now. I can tell you that from the information we have, Paul Van der Sloot was directly involved with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

CC: What are your thoughts right now as to the disposal of the body?

TJ: From all the information we have gathered, even when I was in Aruba. Every place has been searched, every place that could have been hidden. We know there are lots of nooks and crannies that them being natives of the island could put her. But, information that we have right we believe in the removal or disappearance of NH. I can’t elaborate with that, because it is very important that it be kept confidential at this time.

CC: Do the Aruban authorities have this information?

TJ: No, but if we find information that will lead us to where she is we will turn it over to the LE and the FBI.

CC: I understand you have been following Joran around Holland, what have you found out?

David W: National Enquirer

We have been keeping tabs on Joran for a couple of weeks in Arnhem. He is here living with his father outside a small town outside the city of Arnhem and attending business school. We have learned that the Aruban police have been alerted to a possible attempt to kill him. They were concerned enough to alert their counterparts in Holland.

CC: Do we think it is some irate individual that has been following the case? What kind of info do we have?

DW: There are people angry enough in Aruba and the United States to want him dead. In fact, I was at the prison the day he was released. It was quite obvious the day he was released. I saw them sweeping several houses overlooking the prison for weapons.

CC: Does this involve the Kalpoe brothers as well?

DW: No, I think this is centered on Joran.

CC: What kind of information on Joran, I understand he is going to school but having a good time as well?

DW: Yes, I think he is. Doesn’t seem to have changed his ways. He is hitting the bars sometimes till the early hours. He is cutting classes, and he is certainly chasing girls.

CC: He is living with his father, so what kind of schedule does he seem to be keeping? What is PVDS doing?

DV: His father brings him to school most mornings, sometimes he goes home on the train.
They have spent a lot of time attending soccer matches around Europe.
They have been to England, are planning a trip to Macedonia.
His father certainly doesn’t seem to be keeping a tight rein on him.

CC: What about the people in the town where he is living? Do they seem to know much about the story?

DV: No I don’t think they do.Certainly his classmates at school certainly know his history. He has made no attempt to hide it. I don’t think that anyone in the little town where he is living would have a clue about his background.

CC: What are your thoughts about him doing the interview with Current Affair? He certainly doesn’t seem to be hiding it, he seems to be going public.

DV: He was caught by that TV team. He is a clever kid and I think he used it to his advantage and turned it into a calculated PR event on his part.

CC: You described trips to England and planning one to Macedonia. There don’t seem to be any restrictions on him anywhere in and out of the Netherlands?


2,132 posted on 09/26/2005 7:04:48 PM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: Yaelle

Evening Yaelle,
I believe that is what occurred and PVDS was complicit in the rape and murder.

The whole concept, to include the tactics seem very well rehearsed. I am sure many rapes involving this quartet has taken place without a homicide involved.

The Holloway's should have known after the release of the three perps at the onset of the investigation, how things would go(downhill for justice)

Well all I can say is that is what happens when Euro-Trash are found in the wood-pile.

It is a very sad day for Mother Justice and Beth&Jug Holloway.

"I will set a plumb line in the midst of my people Israel, for I will not pass them by again."

Or ever the silver cord be loosened,
NSNR-ECCS-12


2,133 posted on 09/26/2005 7:09:54 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: justche

Evening J,

The State Department has been too busy kissing the muzleems asses.They should let Israel take care of this pestilence for once and for all.

"As I peered into the dark eyes of the muslim, I saw the devil within."

I knew from thence I was bound, by the Covenant, Sword and Arm of the Lord, to stike down this demonic godless horde.

The Beginning of the End,
NSNR-CSAOTL


2,134 posted on 09/26/2005 7:19:55 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Wow NSNR, not a thing I can even begin to disagree with there....


2,135 posted on 09/26/2005 7:36:48 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: shebacal

TJ: Some of this information we have, we are not going to expose right now.

I can tell you that from the information we have, Paul Van der Sloot was directly involved with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.


2,136 posted on 09/26/2005 8:01:48 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: shebacal

More:

CC: What kind of information on Joran, I understand he is going to school but having a good time as well?

DW: Yes, I think he is. Doesn’t seem to have changed his ways.

He is hitting the bars sometimes till the early hours. He is cutting classes, and he is certainly chasing girls.


2,137 posted on 09/26/2005 8:03:14 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: justche

You are right. I take that back. I saw him on the talk shows tonight and he is very sincere in his efforts to seek justice for his daughter.

He is a Southern gentleman and will go about it in his own dignified way.

What I want is for him to act like a Mafia father would.

My bad.


2,138 posted on 09/26/2005 8:05:08 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: LucyT

What show was this on?


2,139 posted on 09/26/2005 8:19:48 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: Palladin

We may yet be surprised once they know where Natalee is....


2,140 posted on 09/26/2005 8:20:45 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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