Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 16

Various News Outlets | 8/26/05

[TexKat]

Surinamese Deepak Kalpoe, 21, arrives to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Aruban police arrested Kalpoe and his brother Satish, 18, along with a third person according to government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg, saying he doesn't know if the arrests are connected to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. The two brothers had been previously detained and released. (AP Photo/Pedro Famous Diaz)

Surinamese Satish Kalpoe, 18, front, gets in a car to go to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Two Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, who had been detained and released in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway were arrested again Friday based on new evidence, officials said. The brothers were detained on suspicion of involvement, with unidentified 'other people,' in premeditated murder and rape, the prosecutor's office said. Person to the right is unidentified. (AP Photo/Farrah Boekhoudt)

[No Surrender No Retreat]

God Morning Lovely Canadian Outrage,
Dave should have viewed the movie, "The outlaw Josey Wales."

In this type situation one must get mad-dog mean to survive and obtain justice. DH has a more of a pacifist liberal type demeanor, or turn the other cheek approach to justice.

There is only one logicical avenue of justice to be pursued in this case," Lex Talionus. (Eye For An Eye)

As I See It,
NSNR-FH

[imaketypos]

members.aol.com/worldJOURNIER/NATALEE/NATALEEtimeline.html from 9-19 report

On 9-19 “Bon dia” wrote about DAVE HOLLOWAY,“‘I am here to meet with the prosecution to see if they are still on track, and to assure the Police Corps I am still with them, that I am still supportive of them and of the people of the island, because it is only with the help of Aruba that we can eventually solve this case.’”

I don’t see why 100,000 people should be penalized for the actions of possibly three or more individuals who are not even from this island.’”

How about a case of good cop, bad cop. Beth has Dr. Phil saying the show will do everything needed. Dave met privately with ALE and prosecutor when he first got back to Aruba and maybe reminds them of Beths appearance on Dr. Phil and the press is not going to go away. Publicly he states all good things about them.

[LongViewSC]

How about a case of good cop, bad cop. I thought about that possibility, but the problem with it is that if the good cop disarms the bad cop the criminal feels no threat. Dave is destroying Beth's PR / Boycott efforts. With that kind of "good" cop, the criminals can say thanks chump and laugh their way on to the next victim.

[imaketypos]

Dave is destroying Beth's PR / Boycott efforts

I don't remember hearing another word about the boycott from the press after Dr. Phil stated it on his program. Are they just waiting to see the reactions from the meetings Dave had with the ALE, prosecutor before starting a full offensive? I think Beth would have been on every program right after Dr. Phils show if they didn't want to wait and see the reaction from ALE and prosecutor..

[LongViewSC]

I don't remember hearing another word about the boycott from the press after Dr. Phil stated it on his program. Are they just waiting to see the reactions from the meetings Dave had with the ALE, prosecutor before starting a full offensive? I think Beth would have been on every program right after Dr. Phils show if they didn't want to wait and see the reaction from ALE and prosecutor..

I haven't heard anything either. My hunch is that the attempt to get a boycott going failed. Of the friends I sent emails to not one responded saying they would write letters, etc. People are self centered and it takes alot to get people willing to fight for a stranger where they see no self interest. If it became clear to Beth that Dave was going to oppose the boycott, Beth is smart enough to drop it. Beth trying to pushing a boycott while Dave is hugging ALE would allow the Aruban PR to claim Beth is just an upset mother that cannot think straight.

The bottom line is that everyone knows who hurt Natalee, but via cover-up / time wasted evidence is gone. I believe the family will never have a clearer picture then they have right now unless some man that loves Natalee or Beth is willing to...

I need to break from this thread until I hear some change in the story. I don't believe we can do much in the States at this point. Even if Dave changes his view on pressuring Aruba it will be too late. You can not turn public support on and off...Ask Ross Perot.

I wish we could make young girls understand the dangers out there. How do you make young girls realize that many males are dangerous without sounding like a nut? People in 2005 are afraid to talk about this topic. I guess it has something to do with feminism. We do not want females to feel like they need protection.

[shebacal]

Scared Monkeys

Searches Continue For Natalee Holloway in Aruba near
California Lighthouse
September 23rd, 2005 by Scared Monkeys

Despite the lack of media attention or the fact that all suspects have been released from custody, searches do continue in Aruba in the investigation of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. Yesterday divers searched the coast line of the Northwest shore behind the California Lighthouse. The divers were supervised by Prosecutor Karin Jansen and searched the rocky coastline and caverns.

MALMOK - Yesterday, a search team continued diving for missing Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway. The divers, supervised by Prosecutor Karin Jansen together with lawyers Vinda de Zouza and Mr. Mohamed retained by the teen's father Dave Holloway, searched the coast line of the Northwest shore behind the California Lighthouse.

The area in question was a deep cavern where diver Gino Wauben and his team searched the caves. The waves were crashing into the rocky coastline where strong currents pushed the divers into the cavern. This was a very dangerous situation as the divers were tossed by the treacherous waters into the rocky coastline.

The search did not provide any new evidence in the investigation of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

[shebacal]

In the second picture down, I wonder if the 2nd and 3rd people from the left standing on the bank are Dave and Vinda de Zouza?

[Palladin]

Thanks for this news. I'm glad some are still searching for Natalee.

She will most likely be discovered quite by accident, like Chandra Levy was.

[Froufrou]

I'm glad some effort is still being made. I've been away because we had to go board up the house at the coast. Winds in San Antonio are up to 20 mph and we have 13,000 Rita evacuees so far. Luckily, we're still set up from the Katrine evacuees!

It's getting hard to find gasoline and many places have only super unleaded. The stores are running out of food.

[penowa]

I'm glad to know you are all right. Been thinking of you and hope TexKat and all our other Texas friends will remain safe. We will keep the people of the Gulf states in our prayers tonight, hoping that the storm passes quickly and for the best possible outcome.

[MAWG]

Hey Frou. I live in Clear Lake and I'm hunkered down pretty good right now.I boarded up the windows two days ago. The real story on this storm is how the Mayor of Houston put over a million people on the road and created a parking lot out of 650,000 cars and 5 miles of highway. Storm should hit Port Arthur at 2:00 a.m. Awful windy and rainy outside right now.Later.

[Froufrou]

MAWG, Hope you're okay down there. I remember going through Clear Lake when we would go to Galveston. Dad studied medicine at the UTMB in Galveston. The had property in Dickinson but they sold that years ago.

Everyone, stay safe, please!

[pamlet]

Hope ALL are safe!

Froufrou - kinda quiet here huh? They called for wind up here ... but there is VERY little.. It's hard to believe the wet mess only 3 hours away.. :(

[Canadian Outrage]

Oh my Lucy, please stay safe!!

[Canadian Outrage]

Frou - sounds awful. You can ALWAYS come to my house!! WELCOME MAT IS OUT!!

[LucyT]

Thanks, CO. I'm safe, but I'm concerned about nuntukamen.

[Canadian Outrage]

Looks like your right about Port Artur. It took a big hit, if not THE hit. Can you belive this storm could possibly loop down and re-enter the Gulf of Mexico? If it does that it could possibly become ANOTHER Hurricane? Strange weather, very strange. All you southerner's - PLEASE stay safe. Things can be re-placed. You can't!! Sounds to me like the Insurance companies are going to be overwhelmed!!!!!!.

[Andy'smom]

I don't know if this has been posted yet but if you haven't seen it...

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/ne/20050923/112748760002.html


I hope he's scared!

[LucyT]

From the article:

"There have been warnings about mercenaries who are prepared to kill them, and violent people just waiting for the right moment," said the source. "I wouldn't even be surprised if Joran's mother or brother were kidnapped — his enemies might figure it's the only way to get Joran to talk."

"Arnhem police spokesman Gohan Rongen acknowledged that they were aware of Joran's presence there.

"Asked about death threats, he said: "I can't give you any information."

[shebacal]

This information about death threats may give the VDS family something to think about, while they congratulate themselves on having saved their spawn from hell from receiving the justice he deserves.

'But let Justice roll down like waters And Righteousness like an ever-flowing stream.' (Amos 5.21)