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The Illegal Immigration Emergency: Would a Bill of Impeachment Wake-Up President Bush?
Human Events Online ^ | August 26, 2005 | Patrick Buchanan

Posted on 08/26/2005 9:35:38 AM PDT by hinterlander

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To: bayourod
After the law is past you won't have any option. Since you support all laws you will have to support the guest worker law.

You worship the law. The law is the highest authority in you life, more important than your God, your family, your country, even your own self.

It doesn't make any difference which law or what it says, you support all laws for no other reason than "it's the law."

If I don't like a particular law that is being considered for passage, I have the right to do whatever I can to try to prevent that law from being passed. If a law gets passed that I don't like or I feel is unfair in some way, I have the right to do whatever I can to try to get that law changed or rescinded. That's the American way.

261 posted on 08/26/2005 1:01:23 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: bayourod

No one speaks for me. Will you stop with the Cindy soap opera skit now?

Just about everyone on this thread would probably agree. It's very annoying.


262 posted on 08/26/2005 1:03:20 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: judgeandjury
"As long as the guest workers sign up from within their home countries, I would have no problem with the general concept of a guest worker program."

That wouldn't be much of a problem for those from Mexico, but what about those from China or North Korea? Aren't half the illegals in California Asians? Doesn't that give the Mexicans an unfair advantage? Don't you think the Mexicans will have to replace the Asians who can't go home to apply?

263 posted on 08/26/2005 1:06:47 PM PDT by bayourod (Blue collar foreign laborers create white collar jobs. If they come they will build it.)
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To: judgeandjury
"If a law gets passed that I don't like or I feel is unfair in some way, I have the right to do whatever I can to try to get that law changed or rescinded. That's the American way."

But in the meantime you must support it because you hate and despise anyone who violates any law, regardless of how minor or how long ago. You consider allowing anyone to live who has every violated any law at any time as rewarding them for violating the law.

264 posted on 08/26/2005 1:10:51 PM PDT by bayourod (Blue collar foreign laborers create white collar jobs. If they come they will build it.)
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To: COEXERJ145; bayourod

Do oppose the United Nations or any other world government body that may attempt to impose its will or rule over our sovereign nation and sovereign people? Do you believe in defending our borders, our constitution and our national sovereignty?


265 posted on 08/26/2005 1:11:10 PM PDT by afnamvet ( Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand.)
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To: Black Tooth
"Where is Bush? All wrapped up in the issue of whether women in Najaf will have the same rights in divorce and custody cases as women in Nebraska. "

Do you agree with Buchanan on his anti-war position?

266 posted on 08/26/2005 1:12:50 PM PDT by bayourod (Blue collar foreign laborers create white collar jobs. If they come they will build it.)
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To: bayourod
Bush and Rove will defeat Buchanan and Tancredo every time.

Lol it has nothing to do with Buchanan and Tancredo, your obsession is over the top. We won't see a guest worker program passed anytime soon because the American people overwhelmingly don't want it and believe me, Congress is well aware of that just as they are on making any Social Security changes.

267 posted on 08/26/2005 1:14:12 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: bayourod
Still no denial that Cindy speaks for you.

She doesn't speak for me. Nor for any of us "anti-illegals" here.

But doesn't Vincente Fox speak for YOU when he said four years ago on the White House lawn:

debemos y podemos llegar a un acuerdo migratorio antes de fin de este mismo año, que nos permita antes de que terminen nuestros mandatos que no haya para entonces mexicanos indocumentados en Estados Unidos, y que aquellos mexicanos que ingresen a este gran país lo hagan con papeles.

"We should and we can reach a 'migratory agreement' before the end of this year, that will permit before the end of our terms that there will be no 'undocumented' Mexicans in the US, and that those Mexicans that enter the US do it with papers."

He speak for you, doesn't he?

268 posted on 08/26/2005 1:18:19 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
"Where is Bush? All wrapped up in the issue of whether women in Najaf will have the same rights in divorce and custody cases as women in Nebraska. "

What about you? Do Buchanan and Cindy speak for you? Do you consider creating a democratic state with freedom and liberty in the Middle East to be important?

Or do you support the position of the anti-illegals that President Bush is a "quisling" because he won't bring the troops home and line them up on the border?

Do you consider our troops to be dying in vain as do Cindy and Buchanan?

269 posted on 08/26/2005 1:18:24 PM PDT by bayourod (Blue collar foreign laborers create white collar jobs. If they come they will build it.)
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To: bayourod
Do you consider our troops to be dying in vain as do Cindy and Buchanan?

Do you think they should die while their homeland is not secure, while its borders are breached with impunity??

270 posted on 08/26/2005 1:24:22 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: bayourod

Is that maid treating you right?

A litte happy ending????


271 posted on 08/26/2005 1:24:44 PM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton, Jr.)
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To: Calpernia

Bush appears to be having the Justice Dept go after those committing crimes, which is fine however there is little enforcement against employers nationally. That's the key imo to stopping illegal immigration and he needs to get busy.


272 posted on 08/26/2005 1:25:56 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: NRA2BFree
Why in the world do you want to wait until after an attack?

I agree. Not one more America life should be sacrificed to the "open borders" "free trade" crowd. It is a shame that these people have such a hold on the government of a free country. It is extrodinarily troubling that they value human life so little that they would refuse to protect America unless another attack was made on the American people. And even then, they will probably come up with all kinds of excuses to restrict the liberty of American citizens, at the same time neglecting the border and the correlation to their "free trade" policies again. They cannot be trusted to do what is right and good for the American people.
273 posted on 08/26/2005 1:29:11 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

There are employers listed for having illegals. Go through the press releases yourself. I posted enough hotlinks.


274 posted on 08/26/2005 1:29:15 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
There are employers listed for having illegals. Go through the press releases yourself. I posted enough hotlinks.

No, you didn't, and Reaganwuzthebest has a good point.

275 posted on 08/26/2005 1:31:31 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Map Kernow

I didn't post enough hotlinks?

No I didn't what?


276 posted on 08/26/2005 1:33:31 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: hedgetrimmer
America life = American life
277 posted on 08/26/2005 1:33:32 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: afnamvet
"Do you believe in defending our borders, our constitution and our national sovereignty? "

Of course, as well as mom and apple pie.

All of which happen to be in good shape despite the anti-illegals attempts to subvert our Constitution by twisting the meaning of the word "invasion" to mean migrant workers instead of foreign armies as the authors meant, and their attempt to subvert the Constitution by deny citizenship to all persons born in America as the Constitution clearly provides.

Do Buchanan and Cindy speak for you?

278 posted on 08/26/2005 1:35:03 PM PDT by bayourod (Blue collar foreign laborers create white collar jobs. If they come they will build it.)
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To: Calpernia
My post to you wasn't meant to be hostile in any way but you have to admit, last year something like only 13 employers were fined for hiring illegals, which isn't much. Even ICE has recently stated their primary mission at the moment is to target contractors of military and national security installations only, private businesses aren't getting much attention.

The one sure way to stop illegal immigration is to hit employers hard all across the country and mandate that they check all future hires for legitimate documents. Bush hasn't done that and needs to, it's a fair criticism.

279 posted on 08/26/2005 1:36:04 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: bayourod
Cindy blah blah Buchanan blah blah Tancredo blah blah blah 55 trillion aborted babies blah blah blah blah 127,000 miles of border yak yak yak...

Hey, Swampy, glad to see you back! We were starting to worry. No, seriously, we were. It's just not the same without you.

So...since you're so into asking questions over and over again...why don't you have an answer to the question, "What did Nigerians ever do to you?"

280 posted on 08/26/2005 1:36:50 PM PDT by cartman90210 ("Sorry kids, those people from the future will do the same job for 25 cents!")
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