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To: Modernman
" Our overstretch of the military is due to pure political, rather than economic or structural, reasons."

Not even close to true, we no longer have the ability to maintain a Navy as large as the we we had 10 years ago. Soon the Chicom Navy will be larger (better?) then ours. Why? Because we don't build ships here anymore, just two (real) Shipyards left, Ships are made of steel and need steel armor, but we don't make (real) steel here any more either, our smart bombs require somekind of high tech magnet, but we don't make that here any more, that got shipped to China last year, so now we buy our smart bombs guidance components from the Chicoms. Ain't free trade great.

In WW2 we have numberious fleets with 400/500 ships. Overwhelmed our enemies, but we gave away our industrial base so those days are gone. Today Japan/Germany could probably beat us. Both are far greater industrial powers. Thanks alot free traders.

207 posted on 07/27/2005 10:50:11 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: jpsb

" ... we don't build ships here anymore, just two (real) Shipyards left ..."

This is because, as Modernman stated in post # 201, a *political* (and military) decision was made, right or wrong, to maintain a 300-ship Navy rather than a 600-ship Navy. There simply isn't enough Navy shipbuilding to sustain more than two "real" shipyards, and it's likely that the two remaining ones will eventually merge. (They are already involved in alot of joint design and construction work for the next generation of nuclear subs.) So, the decline in shipbuilding infrastructure is a *result*, not a *cause", of our military resources being stretched thin.


209 posted on 07/27/2005 11:10:43 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: jpsb
Today Japan/Germany could probably beat us. Both are far greater industrial powers. Thanks alot free traders.

Fascinating point.

We are the ONLY first world nation that has bought in on this free traitor craziness!

Could it possibly be because it profits only the mega rich political contributors?

219 posted on 07/27/2005 11:41:01 AM PDT by iconoclast ( "Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive")
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To: jpsb; All

Germany is in a funck. Japan is not doing to well either..


251 posted on 07/27/2005 12:25:45 PM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles, the earth/past to the groundhogs)
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To: jpsb

You said, "we don't make (real) steel here anymore."

Gee...

What do you suppose the 466,300 American workers in "primary metals" and the 1,528,500 American workers in "fabricated metal products" DO every day after they clock in?

I feel compelled to say: "Gotcha!"


394 posted on 07/27/2005 8:04:13 PM PDT by pfony1
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