[cajungirl]

We agree.

Now let us repair someplace to pound sand.

[spectre]

I know where I'd like to be pounding sand right now, but there is a Hurricane...,so no such luck.

I have NEVER EVER put Beth Holloway down, and remain totally sympathtic toward her plight, as most everyone else has done on this thread.

OTOH, I can see both sides, and will remain sympathatic toward Joran's Mother.

NOBODY knows if Joran's Mother OR father really know what happened that night. Not even Beth can say that for a fact. So pardon me if I don't condemn them to hell for telling their son to "shut up". Nothing unusual about that and under the same circumstances, I'd do the same..

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