Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 5

Various News Outlets | 7/4/05

[TexKat]

Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba.

AP photo

[Shortstop7]

I don't quite agree with your theory. I don't the stories were planned ahead of the rape/murder. That would mean it was all premeditated and I don't think that is the case. I think she was given an accidental overdose.....or raped/killed in the "heat of the moment" after refusing his advances.....

The stories were concocted after the fact, imho.

[Rippersnapper]

Good link. Who do you suppose is updating the site? His brother Valentijn? (sp)

[HoHoeHeaux]

She IS amazing. How it must have broken her heart to see those protesters show up tonight.

The PVDS time change is not surprising I guess, since they did have 10 freakin days to get their stories straight. I am sure his take is that Beth misunderstood, but with possibly 10 witnesses....sheesh. Maybe this will make them take another look at him. We can hope.

[Teri0811]

"If we aren't, maybe we should get back in there; easier to stay on point in Smoky Backroom!"

Please don't. I've been sitting here forever reading every single post beginning with the first thread. I think my eyes are permanently crossed. I would hate to have damaged my poor eyes only to be ditched :)

[Palladin]

Tito Lecle just intimated that they may be bringing PVDS back in for more questioning.

Also that the brothers had planned "a little vacation", but after Beth's statements today, they suddenly changed their plans and are staying home.

[Rippersnapper]

Someone knocking on your door at 3am with the police, it would be odd to not be careful of what you said. It may have been instinct for him to speak up like that, especially to protect his son. Foolish not to. Look at the rumor mills, words are easily twisted and taken out of context.

Anyone verify the ATM withdrawals. I've seen comments about his dad picking him up at 11:00, 3:00 and 4:00. They also just mentioned this on Greta's show. When talking to police its a good idea to have a lawyer present and be told what to do and what not to do.

[Teri0811]

"I mean, who doesn't hear the sirens and bullhorns until the 3rd try?"

When I'm asleep, someone could fly an airplane into my home and the most I would do is let out a lil snore.

[JohnnyP]

If the Kalpoe brothers changed their story, why haven't they been charged with obstructing an investigatiion?

[Rippersnapper]

Now the monkeys are arguing the vnds car is red. I guess I should start at the end over there.

They have a red one and a green one. One is a Jeep and the other a SUV. I don't know which one is which color.

[GarySpFc]

That's just what I've been saying all along. The Kalpoes just lied for their friend, never thinking he could have killed her, and they thought she might show up.
Now you're cooking, Rip :)

Do you think the brothers are dunces? They heard PvdS say if there is no body, then there is no crime.

[Rippersnapper]

I've wondered when Jamie would show up. Being Sloot's 'best friend', I figure he would have to fit in some place.

[onyx]

IMO, if a person manages to successfully obstruct an investigation... there is NO case. See what I mean?

I still think Faahter VDS helped his son and that he's the obstructor.

[Palladin]

I wonder if Deepak is back online yet. Where do you think he would be posting?

His Mom was very tight-lipped tonight, not like the first time Greta interviewed her. Guess the lawyer has told her to be more discreet.

[GarySpFc]

Well, well! Very interesting if that's so. I wonder if N's family knows about the white Suzuki being seen on the marriot beach that night.

Well everyone knows there are thousands of white Suzuki's on Aruba. sarcasm/off

[doc]

Hey Greta, if you want to win kudos, why didn't you ask the brothers lawyer to have his clients volunteer to take a polygraph?

[GarySpFc]

Did anyone hear Greta tonight. Beth said PvdS stated on the 16 & 17th that he picked Joran up at McDonalds at 4 AM on the 31st. Later he changed this to he picked up Joran at 11 PM on the 30th. This is new information. There were witnesses to these statments.

[MonaMars]

"I'd post it, but even the MB guy's very edited version is sick."

Could you tell me what thread that was on over there? I've tried searching and have gone from page to page, but can't find it. Thanks.

[RGVTx]

I heard it a little differently. Beth mentioned 3 times, 4am was his first story. Then 4:30am was a second version given and the third was 11pm. The third version was from Beth and Greta's visit to the VDS home. Beth said she had 10 witnesses to the 4:30am version.

[GarySpFc]

I thought they said 10 witnesses, not 2! If this 4 am info is true, it sure gives them more time to clean up, no?

I recorded Greta tonight, and went back and listened to Beth and Jugs statement several times. PvdS stated on the 16th & 17th that he picked up Joran at McDonalds at 4 AM on the 31st. There were 10 witnesses to PvdS making these statements. Note, BTH did state they heard this second hand from the police.

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

1/26th Inf, 1st Inf Div. The only SF camps I saw were the compound in town of An Loc, and the camp at Song Be, after the fact. Northern III Corps/HWY 13 et environs, me.