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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 5
Various News Outlets | 7/4/05

Posted on 07/04/2005 6:39:22 PM PDT by TexKat

Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba.

AP photo


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: aruba; bethholloway; boycottaruba; fubaruba; jossymansur; kalpoes; mariainecroes; natalee; nataleeholloway; rubentrapenberg; vandersloots
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To: Dark Skies
I really don't believe Natalee did coke at all. I question that anonymous source because she is not the type and it doesn't fit her profile at all. Besides, if there were an ounce of truth to it, we would have heard it from more sources by now. I'm sure there are kids who do coke while in Aruba, but I feel it in my bones that Natalee didn't.
1,881 posted on 07/08/2005 6:20:23 AM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: TexKat

Holloway not only missing U.S. woman in Caribbean
Dan Abrams talks with family of Amy Bradley, missing since '98


MSNBC
Updated: 2:18 p.m. ET June 9, 2005

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8143921/


1,882 posted on 07/08/2005 6:22:48 AM PDT by maggief
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To: spectre

I thought the details of this interview were in her GretaWire on foxnews.com?


1,883 posted on 07/08/2005 6:25:56 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: spectre; sarasota
"has it been stated why Greta promo'd an interview with Deepak for her show LAST night (Wednesday night) that never happened? (Or did I just miss it somehow?)

Heading Home Thursday, July 07, 2005 By Greta Van Susteren

Late Wednesday night I wrote the blog below because I could not sleep... but minutes ago I was awakened with a call to return to the United States immediately. Obviously the terrorism in London is the reason. I am not sure where I am headed, what city I can get to in the United States, what flights are available, etc., but we are leaving Aruba (that is all I know at this moment.)more

1,884 posted on 07/08/2005 6:26:27 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Once again, TexKat keeps the discussion "on point". You're the best.


1,885 posted on 07/08/2005 6:28:36 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: maggiefluffs; Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; No Surrender No Retreat; grizzfan; ...
TN Search Team Joins Effort To Find Natalee Holloway

Early reports suggested that along with individuals from EquuSearch needing to return to their jobs, team members and search dogs were taking a beating from the terrain.

Only a week or so into the endeavor some of the cadaver dogs had to be sent home as a result of damage to their paws from walking through the Island growth and over the difficult terrain.

Looks like they're getting some extra help.

CHATTANOOGA, Tenn. -- A team of divers and a dog trained to find bodies was set to fly to Aruba on Tuesday to join the search for an Alabama teenager missing since May 30.

TN team joins search for Alabama teen missing in Aruba

WSMV-TV CHATTANOOGA, Tenn. -- A team of divers and a dog trained to find bodies was set to fly to Aruba on Tuesday to join the search for an Alabama teenager missing since May 30.

Three divers, the search dog and her handler were requested by Aruban officials to help in the search for 18-year-old Natalee Holloway of Mountain Brook, Ala. and for clues to her disappearance, said Jimmie Canfield, a member of the Tennessee Search and Rescue Dog Association.

"Their resources are running out. Some of the searchers have to go back to their jobs," Canfield said. "They need a new wave of resources."

The Chattanooga-based search team is expected to assist in the Holloway investigation for six days. Divers Dale Hicks and John Scruggs are experts in collecting evidence during dives.

Holloway disappeared at the end of a five-day trip with 124 other students following high school graduation. Numerous searches by Dutch marines, Aruban investigators and volunteer rescue groups have failed to turn up any trace of her.

The investigation into what happened to Holloway is focusing on a Dutch minor after a judge ruled police could detain him an additional 60 days but ordered the release of two Surinamese brothers held in the case.

A judge ruled Monday there was sufficient evidence against 17-year-old Joran van der Sloot to keep him jailed while prosecutors built their case, but ordered brothers Deepak Kalpoe, 21, and Satish Kalpoe, 18, released. All three were arrested on suspicion of murder, but they have not been charged.

1,886 posted on 07/08/2005 6:33:24 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

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1,887 posted on 07/08/2005 6:33:44 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: demkicker

You are probably right, but I know that a lot of good kids suspend the normal rules when on senior trips. I also feel in my bones that Nat is a good girl, but Aruba is a wild place for teenagers.


1,888 posted on 07/08/2005 6:34:28 AM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: sarasota


1,889 posted on 07/08/2005 6:39:23 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Rumor and speculation:

Simian says (scroll down)

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=802&start=555


1,890 posted on 07/08/2005 6:47:18 AM PDT by maggief
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To: demkicker; TexKat
I'm sure there are kids who do coke while in Aruba, but I feel it in my bones that Natalee didn't.

If that's true, and Natalee was one of the few hold-outs,
you don't suppose her 'friends' may have looked the other way, instead of helping her, do you?
Does it bother anyone else, that story about Natalee
"introducing herself" to Joran?

1,891 posted on 07/08/2005 6:48:05 AM PDT by b9
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To: TexKat

What a nice gesture. Have a wonderful day!


1,892 posted on 07/08/2005 6:48:16 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: doodlelady

Yes, it does bother me about Natalee introducing herself to Joran. Is that verified?


1,893 posted on 07/08/2005 7:00:24 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

I don't agree that a discussion of Natalee's judgment is counterproductive. I don't know what evidence if any has been gathered but the state of mind of the missing person is I would think vital in trying to figure out what she might have done or how she might have reacted.

And for those of us concerned with out own children's safety or our own I think we could learn a lot by examining how judgment and subsequent events relate to one another. What everyone who doesn't know the people involved in any news event garner from following the news is insight on how we should lead our own lives and how we should approach the decisions both small and large that we encounter every day.


1,894 posted on 07/08/2005 7:02:22 AM PDT by libsl (I'm just sayin'....)
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To: doodlelady

People introduce themselves. I myself do it all the time.

What might you be suggesting.

And most kids don't do coke, believe it or not.


1,895 posted on 07/08/2005 7:10:32 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: libsl

I dont know libs but most of us know about how to look out for our safety. And some of the discussions are just prurient and intended to blame the victim.

I do know that young women I know, and I know alot, as a matter of practice do not take drinks of even orange juice from anyone in a public place or party. They only get sealed cokes or whatever from a machine or a bartender. And if they get drinks, they watch like hawks while the drink is made and never let it leave their hand or gaze.

Most young women don't do that but the careful ones, the ones who have known or experienced being drugged, do. I advise all to do it.

Joran didn't look dangerous. He looked like a tall, young, handsome, Dutch teen. Packages are deceiving and the blanket acceptance of all people with assumptions they are decent is a big mistake. But we know that.

And leaving only with friends, we all know that.

We don't know what happened with Natalee. I lean toward thinking she was naive, her drink was spiked and she was led while in an altered drugged state, not readily apparent to others, into a swiftly arriving car. Her friends didn't respond and that was a mistake.

This is all well known. But no matter how many precautions, things happen like this teaching terrible lessons. But the lessons, everyone knows.


1,896 posted on 07/08/2005 7:16:08 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: sarasota
Yes, it does bother me about Natalee introducing herself to Joran. Is that verified?

Yes. Her two friends were interviewed on Greta's show.

1,897 posted on 07/08/2005 7:16:23 AM PDT by b9
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To: doodlelady

So, you don't introduce yourself?

I meet people when I travel. If I see them around and they look harmless, I regularly introduce myself.

I have thought alot about how "good manners" can be the death of women. If you talk to women who are raped by strangers who arrive at their door asking for directions, etc. Almost always, they are reluctant to be "rude". Reluctant to ignore, reluctant to refuse to open the door.

Good manners often put people in bad positions. But really, must we abandon all good manners?


1,898 posted on 07/08/2005 7:19:59 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: TexKat
So I went there and read her blog.

She never did reveal what Deepak told her, or did I miss that?

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1,899 posted on 07/08/2005 7:20:36 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: spectre

I was wondering why doesn't Greta interview both brothers together? IMO it would be easier to spot lies that way.


1,900 posted on 07/08/2005 7:32:52 AM PDT by Landry Fan (God Bless our Military)
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