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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 5
Various News Outlets | 7/4/05

Posted on 07/04/2005 6:39:22 PM PDT by TexKat

Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba.

AP photo


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: aruba; bethholloway; boycottaruba; fubaruba; jossymansur; kalpoes; mariainecroes; natalee; nataleeholloway; rubentrapenberg; vandersloots
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Beth: Don't let these criminals walk free among your citizens.


141 posted on 07/05/2005 7:04:25 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
Heartbreaking to see Beth's pain. And, the Kalpoes could leave as early as Thursday for Suriname. (two flights a week; Monday and Thursday)
142 posted on 07/05/2005 7:05:27 AM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")
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To: kcvl
That was a very short news' conference.

I know and I got a phone call as soon as the press conference started.

143 posted on 07/05/2005 7:05:38 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: sarasota

My bet is that just as Beth has always said, she immediately thought that Natalee was most likely kidnapped, and they know the FBI has tremendous expertise and experience in kidnapping cases. There is nobody better to turn to, and time would have been extremely crucial.


144 posted on 07/05/2005 7:06:45 AM PDT by txrangerette
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To: gingersnaps
And I believe Holland has been trending in a more conservative direction, politically, after the assassinations of Pim Fortuyn and Theo van Gogh.

Agree.
145 posted on 07/05/2005 7:07:17 AM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")
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To: sarasota
Yes, that's it.

She said that she was requesting help on behalf of her beautiful daughter which she hasn't seen in over 36 days. She ask that Aruba citizens not allow the Kalpoe brothers to walk free among them (my words, not hers). She is not leaving until she finds her.

She was crying so couldn't talk very long.

146 posted on 07/05/2005 7:07:25 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: hummingbird
Heartbreaking to see Beth's pain. And, the Kalpoes could leave as early as Thursday for Suriname. (two flights a week; Monday and Thursday)

And Mama Kalpoe already has their plane tickets per media report yesterday.

147 posted on 07/05/2005 7:07:33 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
And Mama Kalpoe already has their plane tickets per media report yesterday.

Does she fear for their safety; why can't they stay and help look for Natalee? (what am I even thinking asking such questions....)
148 posted on 07/05/2005 7:09:57 AM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")
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To: kcvl
She ask that Aruba citizens not allow the Kalpoe brothers to walk free among them (my words, not hers).

So is she suggesting some type of vigilante justice here?

I sympathize with her grief and desparation, but she is not a legal expert and has no more evidence of murder than the authorities do (FBI, Arubans etc.)
149 posted on 07/05/2005 7:12:10 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: TexKat

And Mama Kalpoe already has their plane tickets per media report yesterday.

Wasn't that 'reported' as a 'rumor', though?

Buying tickets is one thing; using them is another.

150 posted on 07/05/2005 7:14:27 AM PDT by elli1
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To: over3Owithabrain

At the very least the brothers lie delayed the investigation, lead to the security guards arrest and allowed the potential guilty party and his father to hide evidence.


151 posted on 07/05/2005 7:16:12 AM PDT by JIM O
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To: over3Owithabrain

She probably knows more that we do.


152 posted on 07/05/2005 7:16:35 AM PDT by kcat
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To: hummingbird

Frances Ellen


153 posted on 07/05/2005 7:17:39 AM PDT by johnb838 (It's the socializm, stupid!)
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To: TexKat

SM:

stop it you stupid b***h. go look for your daughter! stop accusing our people... innocent until proven guilty.


taken from a call on Top radio.


154 posted on 07/05/2005 7:18:33 AM PDT by maggief
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To: johnb838

I remember seeing "Frances Ellen" on the thread but didn't realize that was the gal's name. Thanks!


155 posted on 07/05/2005 7:19:58 AM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")
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SM:

again Aruban radio......

"your looking in the mirror because you are the criminal. It is time the FBI looks at your family"

another call.....

Children chanting: Free Joran! Free Joran! Free Joran!


another call..... what was your daughter doing leaving her wallet in her room.... (not sure what he was getting at.) time for you to go home...


156 posted on 07/05/2005 7:20:13 AM PDT by maggief
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To: over3Owithabrain
So is she suggesting some type of vigilante justice here?

No she isn't asking for "some type of vigilante justice here". Please read where I said MY WORDS, NOT HERS. She asked that no one offer them a safe haven. The Holloways are anything but "vigilantes". Now me, that's another story. I would tear that hell hole apart looking for my child including anyone who stood in my way!

I sympathize with her grief and desparation, but she is not a legal expert and has no more evidence of murder than the authorities do (FBI, Arubans etc.)

Where did anyone suggest that she was a "legal expert"? She has an attorney and since Beth did as much investigating as the Arubans did in the beginning I think she has evidence that you don't know about and obviously neither does the rest of the country. That's why she was threatening to go to the media with it since it is her ONLY leverage at this point.

157 posted on 07/05/2005 7:21:12 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: maggiefluffs
"There's a whole lot of swearin' goin' on down there."

Honestly...drugs, sex, gambling, loud music, swearing and partying 24/7!

When did I get so old?!
158 posted on 07/05/2005 7:22:27 AM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")
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To: JIM O
At the very least the brothers lie delayed the investigation, lead to the security guards arrest and allowed the potential guilty party and his father to hide evidence.

Apparently obstructing justice is not a crime in Aruba but normal practice..why else would everyone lie so freely? Their passports should have been taken and not allowed to leave pending resolution based on their prior lies. I hope they can at least be sued civily by the security guards and Natalees family..what a crock, one can try and defend Dutch Justice, but impeding an investigation should be a crime, without a penalty, why not lie? Is perjury against the law? Did they take statements under penalty of perjury?

159 posted on 07/05/2005 7:23:32 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: TexKat

GHT statement: (rough draft)

It is now that I ask the world to help me. Two suspects were released yesterday that were involved in a violent crime against my daughter. They are beling allowed to walk among us. They have no restrictions as to where they can travel. Do not allow these criminals to walk among your citizens. It is my greatest fear today that the Kalpoe brothers will leave Aruba. I am asking all nations not to offer them a safe haven. I'm asking this on behalf of my beautiful and intelligent daughter who I haven't seen in 36 days.

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/07/natalee_hollowa_11.html#comments


160 posted on 07/05/2005 7:23:48 AM PDT by maggief
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