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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4
Link to previous Natalee Holloway Thread ^ | 6/30/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/30/2005 8:31:27 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Posted on 06/23/2005 12:44:51 PM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1429067/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Ariel/Satellite Map of Aruba
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=12.564583,-70.035954&spn=0.089264,0.123081&z=4&t=k&hl=en

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

Online TV Show Links


Shortcuts...

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty  (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network


Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine - as well simple links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




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To: monkeywrench

Yup.


701 posted on 07/01/2005 2:15:36 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Nita Nupress

The police chief is quitting?

I've been wrapped up all day with the Freepathon and Sandra news.

Tell me more, please.


702 posted on 07/01/2005 2:15:42 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: onyx

I couldn't remember who all to ping!


703 posted on 07/01/2005 2:15:52 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: debg
Well, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if they have her body..... This IS ARUBA we're talking about here. And the way they've handled this, is just beyond ridiculous.

If it weren't for our reporters.....like Greta....we'd have really been kept in the dark.

704 posted on 07/01/2005 2:15:58 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Peach

Maybe if the Holloways and Greta hadn't stayed so long, the police chief would have stayed and waited until it all "blew over." They don't know Americans very well. We were built on justice 230 years ago.


705 posted on 07/01/2005 2:17:06 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Trying to think back to the things she has said; wonder if they knew all along?


706 posted on 07/01/2005 2:17:11 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: ncpatriot
Exactly!

How much more can they say TODAY, about her retirement, that WON'T HAPPEN UNTIL OCTOBER! FGS!

707 posted on 07/01/2005 2:17:27 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Yaelle
...3 youths were charged with murder all along, but they didn't want to upset the FAMILY???...

What is additionally questionable: If they had evidence, and they charged the boys 3 weeks ago why would they encourage and allow let the Equusearch organization come in...thousands of dollars were raised and spent for that.

And Natalee's family searching and looking all these weeks, all the relatives/friends and who knows how many others and the costs involved for everyone for that.

Plus the cost for the second deployment of the Dutch Marines ... another expense which I assume the Netherlands pays for. Those officials cannot be too happy about sending Marines on a wild goose chase. When in Aruba the govt. knew all along she was dead.

Again, something very strange about how Aruba handles things. Another puzzling story.

708 posted on 07/01/2005 2:17:36 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: sodpoodle

5 years? He will be all of 22!! Free to murder again!


709 posted on 07/01/2005 2:18:10 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Nita Nupress

I heard it was because he was incompetent and had been planned a LONG time. Contract no renewed.


710 posted on 07/01/2005 2:18:23 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: roses of sharon; brigette; maggiefluffs

Trying to correct the information - charges filed 1 week ago not 3.

Has anyone pinged Maggiefluffs and brigette?


711 posted on 07/01/2005 2:18:24 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Newbie, PhD. Tenure allows you to stay put it does not allow you to evict others.)
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To: onyx
I think it's stratergery. Really I do.

At this point I have absolutely no faith or trust in the authorities in Aruba. What has happened today that made them feel compelled to reveal this "news?" It seems to me that US political types are taking a higher profile in recent days (Lott and Shelby to name two) and that Beth Holloway threatened to go to the media.

712 posted on 07/01/2005 2:19:08 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Howlin


I can't think right now either...lol. This is just TOO exciting.

How's your headache?


713 posted on 07/01/2005 2:19:14 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Peach

Yes, mam, they LIKELY can!

May be in their law.
WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME.


714 posted on 07/01/2005 2:20:00 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Dolphy


I'm viewing this different. I truly think it's stratergery, but I am "HOPING and PRAYING" that evidence has been found.


715 posted on 07/01/2005 2:20:30 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Yaelle

The police chief was going to be fired anyway. Before all this happened.


716 posted on 07/01/2005 2:20:35 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Yaelle; Peach; All

I just have to learn to type as fast as I think.

Napolitano was speculating that one of the 3 perps could turn States' evidence on the other 2 in order to bargain for a lesser sentence. State witness could perhaps get only 5 years, where the actual killer would get 40 years.

Hope that is more clear.
sp


717 posted on 07/01/2005 2:21:01 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Newbie, PhD. Tenure allows you to stay put it does not allow you to evict others.)
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To: CitizenM

Because they don't have the body.


718 posted on 07/01/2005 2:21:16 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Yikes! What did I miss? How far back do I look?


719 posted on 07/01/2005 2:21:42 PM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: sodpoodle

Both Fox and MSNBC said they were filed 3 weeks ago, according to the AP.


720 posted on 07/01/2005 2:21:54 PM PDT by Howlin
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