Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4

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[stlnative]

Aruba prosecutor says judge told son: No body, no case
Thursday, June 30, 2005; Posted: 12:07 p.m. EDT (16:07 GMT)
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/30/aruba.missing/

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One Month, And Still No Natalee
ORANJESTAD, Aruba, June 30, 2005
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/06/30/world/main705394.shtml

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No body, no clues, no case
Natalee, where are you?
Updated: 11:38 a.m. ET June 30, 2005
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8417771/

[sarasota]

But as time has gone on, it seems to me that Beth may have started thinking that the kidnapping was a ruse (deception).

[Jersey Republican Biker Chick]

Prosecutor: Aruban judge told son 'when there is no body you don't have a case'


ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) — The father of a Dutch teenager arrested in the disappearance of a young U.S. woman told his son and his two friends that "when there is no body you don't have a case," Aruba's attorney general said Wednesday.

Paul van der Sloot, a judge in training in Aruba, gave his 17-year-old son Joran van der Sloot and two Surinamese brothers legal advice the day after 18-year-old Natalee Holloway disappeared, District Attorney Caren Janssen told MSNBC in an interview.

"They spoke about the situation that when there is no body you don't have a case, and that was already in the first day after the disappearance," Janssen said.

Janssen said that the elder van der Sloot had obstructed the investigation by asking a friend of Joran, who had been interrogated by police, what he had told them.

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Paul van der Sloot, 52, was arrested last Thursday in the disappearance but released Sunday when a judge ruled there wasn't enough evidence to hold him.

Janssen told MSNBC that he was arrested because investigators believed he was also a suspect in the disappearance.

Janssen also said that a month after Holloway's May 30 disappearance, investigators had found nothing concrete to suggest she was dead.

Calls to Janssen seeking further comment late Wednesday were not returned.

Joran van der Sloot and his Surinamese friends, brothers Deepak Kalpoe, 21, and Satish Kalpoe, 18, were arrested June 9. No one has been charged.

Also Wednesday, Steve Croes, a disc jockey who was arrested and held 10 days before being released Monday, told The Associated Press that his detention was based on a lie he told police.

Croes, 26, said he told police he had seen Joran van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers drop Holloway off at the Holiday Inn the night she disappeared, as the three originally told police.

"That was a lie," Croes told the AP during an interview Wednesday night. "I didn't even know those guys and they didn't know me."

Croes said that while he was at an Internet cafe a few days after Holloway's disappearance, he heard Deepak Kalpoe talking on a cell phone about how the young men had dropped Holloway off. Croes said the story seemed plausible and he went around repeating it, adding that he had seen them drop her off. Police questioned and then arrested him, Croes said.

"I learned that if you don't know something, keep your mouth shut," said Croes. He said has veen fired from his disc jockey job on the Tattoo party boat.

[stlnative]

Oh yeah...He was spell binding and HOT! :)

I wonder if he would program my cell phone for me?

[onyx]

BUMP and placemarking.

[maggief]

From your link:

One of the chaperones called Beth on 12pm to say that NH wasn’t in the lobby at the hotel.

Beth inmediately knew that NH was missing and she called the FBI that her daugher had been kidnapped. NH didn’t have contact with with Beth during her trip.

(snip)

Lawyer: Everyday that passes there is more view on the case. Lawyer says that as a mother, she feels something beyond being a a lawyer.

She doesn’t know why there isn’t a ransom.

(snip)

[xsmommy]

ok, we need a screen capture then!! ; )

[spectre]

You aren't considered a TROLL..absolutely not.

But I'm wondering why we are lost in the Smokey Backroom?

sw

[stlnative]

CHARLES CROES PICTURES COMING UP (thank goodness for my DVR system)

DVR - Digital Video Recorder (Tivo like thing)

[xsmommy]

oh good : )

[spectre]

LOL, brigette! My cell phone is acting up as well..:)

[onyx]

G'Morning maggie and y'all. I think I'll go watch Linda Vester's show and see if there's anything hopeful in the news today.

[spectre]

But we can't capture the way he speaks...soft..articulate...in command...oh mercy!

sw

[stlnative]

I put the thread in the Smokey Backroom - The Troll Sign is a reminder for everyone and not specifically for HHH.

[texasbluebell]

No way to know now. Will see if it turns up by googling. Seems like I read it just a few days ago, maybe even here.

[TexKat]

No body, no case, father told arrested teenagers

Published: Thursday, June 30, 2005

Associated Press ORANJESTAD, Aruba - The father of a Dutch teenager arrested in the disappearance of a young U.S. woman told his son and his two friends that "when there is no body you don't have a case," Aruba's attorney general said Wednesday.

Paul van der Sloot, a judge in training in Aruba, gave his 17-year-old son Joran van der Sloot and two Surinamese brothers legal advice the day after 18-year-old Natalee Holloway disappeared, district attorney Caren Janssen told MSNBC in an interview.

"They spoke about the situation that when there is no body you don't have a case, and that was already in the first day after the disappearance," Janssen said.

Janssen said that the elder van der Sloot had obstructed the investigation by asking a friend of Joran, who had been interrogated by police, what he had told them.

Paul van der Sloot, 52, was arrested last Thursday in the disappearance but released Sunday when a judge ruled there wasn't enough evidence to hold him.

Janssen told MSNBC that he was arrested because investigators believed he was also a suspect in the disappearance. (If the prosecutors thought that PVDS was a suspect, why did they not question him while he was in custody? According to PVDS's Dutch interview yesterday PVDS stated that he was not questioned while in custody. Texkat)

Janssen also said that a month after Holloway's May 30 disappearance, investigators had found nothing concrete to suggest she was dead.

Joran van der Sloot and his Surinamese friends, brothers Deepak Kalpoe, 21, and Satish Kalpoe, 18, were arrested June 9. No one has been charged.

[sarasota]

Ping to the question: why are we in the Smoky Backroom??

[xsmommy]

i'll take what i can get for now~! was he on greta's show? i missed her last night.

[texasbluebell]

It's not turning up yet in googling, but it was one of the things that J apparently said that first day at school, the Monday, when he was talking too much and was told by P to keep quiet.

[TexKat]

But as time has gone on, it seems to me that Beth may have started thinking that the kidnapping was a ruse (deception).

It appeared to me that the Twittys appeared to backing off their certainty of the VDSs since PVDS was released from jail.

Don't get me wrong, I believe that the Twittys believe that the VDSs were involved or know something about what transpired, but their certainty has diminished somewhat.