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To: Grzegorz 246
What is wrong with you? The Polish Home Army rose up to take Warsaw before the Soviets arrived - they wer enot acting as allies/agents of the Soviets. The Russians did two things - stopped offensive operations and as the Polish Home Army was about to stop fighting - urged them to keep fighting but not really allowing them any help.

That is not the same thing as you said that the Polish Home Army was acting on Russian orders and then was betrayed.

242 posted on 05/08/2005 1:18:01 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro
You say:

"The Soviets did not ask the Poles to rise up"
"I am correct the Poles rose up without Soviet urging"

from 229:

"Soviet radio-stations were also calling for an uprising."

Of course I'm not a native English speaker, but sometimes I think that you've got bigger problems with this language.
243 posted on 05/08/2005 1:23:35 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Destro

"That is not the same thing as you said that the Polish Home Army was acting on Russian orders and then was betrayed."

When I said It ?


244 posted on 05/08/2005 1:24:43 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Destro; Grzegorz 246
Moscow Radio Station Kosciuszko July 29, 1944 broadcast.

Text by the BBC Monitoring Service on July 30, 1944.


[Moscow in Polish, July 29, 1944. 8:15 p.m.]

Appeal to Warsaw: Fight The Germans!


No doubt Warsaw already hears the guns of the battle which is soon to bring her liberation. Those who have never bowed their heads to the Hitlerite power will again, as in 1939, join battle with the Germans, this time for decisive action. The Polish Army now entering Polish territory, trained in the Soviet Union, is now joined to the People's Army to form the Corps of the Polish Armed Forces, the armed arm of our nation in its struggle for independence.

Its ranks will be joined tomorrow by the sons of Warsaw. They will all together, with the Allied Army pursue the enemy westwards, wipe out the Hitlerite vermin from Polish land and strike a mortal blow at the beast of Prussian Imperialism. For Warsaw, which did not yield but fought on, the hour of action has already arrived. The Germans will no doubt try to defend themselves in Warsaw and add new destruction and thousands of victims. Our houses and our parks, our bridges and our railway stations, our factories and public buildings will be turned into defence positions.

They will expose the city to ruin and its inhabitants to death. They will try to take away all the most precious possessions and turn into dust all that they have to leave behind. It is, therefore, a hundred times more necessary than ever to remember that in the flood of Hitlerite destruction all is lost that is not saved by active effort ; that by direct, active struggle in the streets of Warsaw, in its houses, factories and stores, we not only hasten the moment of final liberation, but also save a Nation's property and the lives of our brothers. …


http://www.warsawuprising.com/doc/kosciuszko.htm

And at the same time they knew, that they would stop on the other side of the Wisla river.
So what was that message for?????

Liberators, bloody hell, indeed.
247 posted on 05/08/2005 1:45:02 PM PDT by lizol
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