Posted on 05/07/2005 3:20:28 PM PDT by neverdem
Filed at 1:34 p.m. ET
RIGA (Reuters) - President Bush denounced Soviet Cold War rule of eastern Europe as ``one of the greatest wrongs of history'' on Saturday in a jab at Moscow two days before celebrations of the 1945 victory over Hitler.
Bush, visiting Latvia before the ceremonies in Moscow marking 60 years since the end of World War II in Europe, also held up the three Baltic states as examples of democratic reform since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991.
He said the end of the war brought liberty from fascism for many in Germany but meant the ``iron rule of another empire'' for the Baltic states -- Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia -- and nations from Poland to Romania.
Bush admitted the United States shared some responsibility for the Cold War division of Europe after the 1945 Yalta accord between Russia, the United States and Britain.
``Once again, when powerful governments negotiated, the freedom of small nations was somehow expendable,'' he said. ``Yet this attempt to sacrifice freedom for the sake of stability left a continent divided and unstable.
``The captivity of millions in central and eastern Europe will be remembered as one of the greatest wrongs of history,'' he said in a speech at Riga's guildhall.
The three Baltic states joined both NATO and the European Union last year.
Bush's visit to Riga has angered Russia by reviving tensions about the Soviet occupation when Moscow is focusing on celebrating the end of World War II, a conflict that cost 27 million Soviet lives.
Russian President Vladimir Putin dismissed calls by the Baltic states for an apology for Soviet rule and accused them on Saturday of trying to cover up past Nazi collaboration.
BUSH MEETS PUTIN
The differing versions of history may make for frictions when Bush meets Putin in Moscow on Sunday and Monday.
Putin insists the Red Army was a liberator, not an oppressor, of Eastern Europe.
``Our people not only defended their homeland, they liberated 11 European countries,'' Putin said on Saturday after laying a wreath at a monument to Russia's war dead.
In a recent state of the nation speech he bemoaned the demise of the Soviet Union as ``the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.'' He has also said Washington should not try to export its own brand of democracy.
Bush said Russia's leaders had made ``great progress'' in the past 15 years.
``In the long run it is the strength of Russian democracy that will determine the greatness of Russia and I believe the Russian people value their freedom and will settle for no less,'' he said.
``As we mark a victory of six decades ago, we are mindful of a paradox. For much of Germany, defeat led to freedom. For much of Eastern and Central Europe, victory brought the iron rule of another empire.''
He also held up the Baltics as examples of successful shifts to democracy, a theme he stressed for nations including Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon and Belarus.
``These are extraordinary times that we're living in and the three Baltic countries are capable of helping Russia and other countries in this part of the world see the benefits of what it means to live in a free society,'' Bush told a news conference.
But Bush did not back pleas by the Baltic countries for an apology from Russia. ``My hope is that we are able to move on,'' he said.
He later flew to the Netherlands where he will spend Saturday night.
The presidents of Lithuania and Estonia will boycott the May 9 ceremonies in Moscow. Georgia's president will also stay away, but Latvia's president will attend.
All three Baltic nations, whose combined population is now about 6 million, were occupied by the Soviet Union in June 1940 after a pact between Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia which divided up spheres of influence in East Europe.
In 1941, German troops occupied the Baltics and remained there until the end of the war when Soviet troops returned and ruled with an iron fist. The collapse of communism enabled the Baltic states to win their independence in 1991.
Bush also urged free elections in Belarus, which shares borders with Lithuania and Latvia, and ruled out any secret U.S deal with Moscow allowing President Alexander Lukashenko to remain in power. ``We don't make secret deals,'' he said.
Latvian President Vaira Vike-Freiberga wrote in the Washington Post on Saturday: ``Russia would gain immensely by ... expressing its genuine regret for the crimes of the Soviet regime.
``Until Russia does so ... its relations with its immediate neighbors will remain uneasy at best.''
But writing in the French daily Le Figaro, Putin dismissed calls for an apology and accused the Baltic countries of trying to justify their own government's ``discriminatory and reprehensible policy'' toward their Russian-speaking populations.
Police detained about 20 protesters from Latvia's big Russian minority after they hurled smoke bombs in a demonstration against Bush.
``Bush is a horror,'' said protest leader Beness Aija. Posters in another demonstration said: ``Stop the war in Iraq.''
But many Latvians welcome Bush. ``It's important to recognize the struggle that our fathers had against communists and the Soviet Union,'' said Ugis Senbergs, a 50-year-old architect.
Of course, the Nazis were busy recruiting the Baltic into the SS. Or how do you think the Jews of Riga got the bullets in their heads? And for that matter, what do you think happened to the Jews of Berlin after their long train ride to Riga.
Furthermore, the Estonian, Latvian and Lithuanian Legions, on their retreat with the rest of the Germans, were there to demolish Warsaw one building at a time.
ms_68's previous claims were that the cities that Poland gobbled up from Kieven Russ in the 1200s were never Kieven Russ but were Poland's for 1000 years (regardless that there was no Poland that far back). Then this guy showed maps of the Roman empire showing there was no Kieven Russ (thus those cities didn't belong to them but to Poland, never mind those cities didn't exist and there was also no Poland in existance). Don't even bother with this guy. Just post evidence to dismiss his claims and be done with it.
Although I don't share your fatalism about the Yalta conference, your analysis of the situation globally at the time certainly rings true, and actions taken need to be evaluated in light of those times, not the present. No one was about to risk any more American lives for the sake of the Bulgarias (or the Latvias) of the world.
Nevertheless, it is bracing to hear the American President announce to the world that the structures of a specious stability are no longer a legitimate substitute for the freedom of self-determination.
Yeah, you showed me maps during the Polish occupation, I showed you maps before the Polish occupation, but you couldn't comprehend that, so you showed me maps from the Roman empire, when Poland also didn't exist. At that point I figured out whom I was dealing with and didn't bother to take you as intellegent.
M-68 sir:). You firstly said that you have United Nation statictics about "2 mlns poles sent to Sibira". Now you have given to me some article of some manipulator- propagandist instead of promised factual statistics of UN.
OK Now I say you didn't concocted it by yourself but you just repeat it after some other propagandist. It means that you just repeater as radio and doesn't include your OWN mind in process.
It is no good for intellegent man.
In the case of France we allied with the exiled Charles de Gaulle and his Free French govt. The French collaborationist govt was either hanged or jailed by de Gaulle.
So take your pro-Nazi the Germans were not so bad revisionist history and shove it.
Greg and m_68 are both just victims of anti-russian propaganda.
I saw it before I recognise a plot.
When I live in USSR I remember people who beleived in commies propaganda. They was "true beleivers" who vehemently shouted on those who put doubts on those propagandist stereotypes.
BUT later when under burden of solid facts their faith crumbled they became another extreme - they become anti-commie propagandists.
Same way propaganda but from different view direction. Now they demonising everything which they beleive before.
I think those two are such case. Any propaganda is propaganda. It is not truth.
Intellegent men doesn't succumb to propaganda.
That is why the Russians view their position as liberating Eastern Europe because it liberated the Slavic people from a race war waging Nazi regime that sought to liquidate and carry out genocide against the Slavic peoples to turn what survived into a race of "slaves" for Germans.
If Yalta did not happen - the Soviets would still have occupied what they occupied but there would have been no legitimacy to their holdings. I don't think it would have changed a thing in the long run but it would not have soiled "our" hands.
I repeat again because I bet most Americans don't remember or know this fact that except for Poland all the Eastern European nations that fell under Soviet occupation were allies with the Nazis.
No American was going to die to save former Nazi allied nations from the (what I am sure most Americans considered the rightful) wrath of the Soviets.
You posted a picture with a fake backstory froma neo-nazi peronista looking website.
The Russians view their position as liberating Eastern Europe because it liberated the Slavic people from a race war waging Nazi regime that sought to liquidate and carry out genocide against the Slavic peoples to turn what survived into a race of "slaves" for Germans.
he is posting from neo-nazi websites.
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