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An Open Letter to Mr. Jim Robinson
April/25/05 | jveritas

Posted on 04/25/2005 6:13:10 AM PDT by jveritas

What is happening to Free Republic Mr. Robinson? The Bush Haters and Republican Haters are getting louder and more daring by the hour. These phony conservatives who claim the Conservatism purity are savagely attacking President Bush and the GOP as bad as the worst liberals.

The Bash Bush feast is becoming a part of every thread. Everywhere you see Bush is a traitor, Bush wants to sell our sovereignty to Mexico, Bush is a liberal, Bush has no spine, Bush is destroying our economy, Bush is puppet in Vincent Fox hand, Bush is this Bush is that, everything wrong in this world is Bush fault.

Nothing but doom and gloom is coming from these phony conservatives. For them our economy is destroyed, liberals are controlling the government, the GOP will be finished by 2006, Mexico has invaded the US and changed its identity, China is superior to us, we are no more a superpower, and on and on and on. Every minor bump in the road is turned into a Mount Everest of catastrophe and disaster

Either Free Republic will remain the Premier political forum on the internet, a site to advance the real conservative cause and provide great and continuous support to our President Bush and the Republican Party, or it will be forum controlled by bitter and delusional phony conservatives who can never win on the ballot box, and come to FR to poison the atmosphere through their extreme kooky rhetoric and turn it into another Dummyland.

Enough is Enough.


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To: sdpatriot
sdp,

The only way I know to get the GOP"s attention is with money. It needs to dry up. Now of course the foreign donations will pour in, and we've been led to believe we are being listened to. While there have been some progress in some areas, domestically speaking, domestic security at the border is by far the Noisiest and most Lethal domestic topic at present, and is and will continue to destroy our voice. That is the point I worry about, along with the fear my government doesn't give a crap.

If they won't listen now, who are they going to listen to in 2 more years? In 4? Ever again?? The time is now, and I am sure voting Dems, even Yellow Dog dems will eventually figure out they are being ignored in favor of foreign influence. The young democrat finger sniffers, will have to move on to other issues eventually.. Heck, they are still whining about the election of 2000, and are becoming jokes. I can hardly wait to see who the new crop of pimple face geeks decide is their new Moses. Saddam?? WE have to speak in terms the GOP understands, and IMO money listens either way. You got it, or you don't...

661 posted on 04/28/2005 7:19:24 AM PDT by JesseJane (Senate Republicans = Fainting Goats.... BOO! ~Close your wallet~)
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To: Happy2BMe

You are right. This will be the issue for 2006.


662 posted on 04/28/2005 7:21:54 AM PDT by JesseJane (Senate Republicans = Fainting Goats.... BOO! ~Close your wallet~)
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To: Motherbear

This politically correct crap has sunk us to our noses. We don't have much deeper to sink before we might just as well be honest and say "The USA is a socialist country"instead of fooling ourselves. The Pubs are in the same bed as the Dims and their offspring is ugly.


663 posted on 04/28/2005 7:26:21 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423)
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To: B4Ranch
B4, I said it in post #95, but it bears repeating.

Quoting " Soon third world status R us.

The elite that own and operate the government for their personal enrichment are in effect destroying the huge middle class that has made this country great. One of these days they will find a way to circumvent even having to go through a voting process, a process that makes the citizens "THINK' they have a voice in their government. We American Citizens are at war with our government, as they refuse to act in 'our' best interest.

664 posted on 04/28/2005 7:30:33 AM PDT by JesseJane (Senate Republicans = Fainting Goats.... BOO! ~Close your wallet~)
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To: JesseJane

Here in liberal New York, there's an awful lot of "pimple face geeks" who are also sick and tired of the "open borders".

Hitlery is looking to make this a Dem issue, and it could be very damaging to our side.


665 posted on 04/28/2005 7:35:40 AM PDT by clyde260 (Public Enemy #1: Network News!)
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To: JesseJane
>>the Dem party has been thoroughly hijacked by commie/socialist/fringe/Luddite/criminal no-loads, but the Dem voters were too stupid to see it, and just kept pulling the lever because they can't frikken think for themselves.. After all, they have to be shown what HOLE to punch, to figure things out.

Pubs, are smarter than that. And, they have seen what happened the dem party with the freaks get in control, and they are getting pissed off<< Let me knock over a few coffee cups and say none of us voters are too dang smart, in either party. We have hired a bunch of roofers who keep saying they can fix the leaks and now that the place is covered in bird crap and mold we still think they should be the only crew in town because they have experience at fixing roofs.

We refuse to look at what damage has been done to our country and everytime these roofers cover a hole with newspaper or it stops raining for a few days we praise them as if they had worked a miracle for us. We do not want to look at the truth because we have heard that she's got a bad case of small pox. Are we ever going to realize that we have been reamed out by these polished politicians for so long that we can't even fart loud enough to be heard by them? I guarantee FR.com will be a great place for reading about who should be re-elected in 2006. Of course, with the drapes pulled and the lights off the smallpox will be looking better then, but only if you wear your party issued blinders 24/7.

666 posted on 04/28/2005 7:54:14 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423)
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To: Happy2BMe

Thanks


667 posted on 04/28/2005 7:54:47 AM PDT by Gipper08
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To: sdpatriot
the biggest problem we face seems to be RINOs who are starting to fight dirtier and with more venom than the dems. they truly don't want fiscal conservatives in office.

I've noticed that. The party lines seem to be blurring together. We should be able to have a choice, but we don't when MSM doesn't mention other viable candidates. Maybe if people supported a candidate, they could hang that candidate's mission statement on doors, post them on laundromat bulletin boards, etc. It's just not enough though, and if shillery runs in '08, we had better vote for the Rep candidate :( In our local elections however, the tactic of papering the town could work.

We have to hold our elected representive's feet to the fire. Some of these folks don't know what it means to be conservative, nor do they uphold the constitution.

668 posted on 04/28/2005 8:02:42 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: JesseJane; KEVLAR; grania; international american; B4Ranch
This is what I see happening in the near future. There is a game afoot, between both parties and the judiciary, over the heads of the American middle class. Bush and the RINOs and the Rats are all deliberately keeping the borders wide open, to allow as many illegals in as possible before Step Two. Below, is Step Two, which is when the judiciary will play its role.

Count on it. This is our future, and the cheap-labor-lusting RINOs are too stupid to see it.

Fernando Ortiz was a ‘landscape engineer’ on Long Island who had demanded to be able to vote, on the basis that he had been paying state and federal taxes for ten years. Actually, he had been stopped from casting a ballot by a poll watcher who had suspected his citizenship status, and (illegally, as it turned out) demanded proof of his identity and legal qualification to vote. Ortiz had won a multi-million dollar settlement against the Republican Party of New York in the subsequent “racial profiling and ethnic intimidation” civil suit, but he did not stop there.

Instead, with massive support from the ACLU and various Hispanic “immigrants rights” foundations, he had pressed his demand to be allowed to vote all the way to the Supreme Court…and he won. The Supreme Court, in its famous 5-4 decision, ruled that negligence in securing America’s borders against illegal immigration on the part of the federal government, could not be held against “undocumented workers who played by the rules and paid their taxes,” once they were established in America—legally or not. The federal government had not taken reasonable efforts to secure the border, and had not pursued "undocumented workers" in the USA. Instead, it openly permitted them most of the benefits of citizenship, and it collected their taxes. "No taxation without representation!" was the cry heard all the way to the Supreme Court. The State of New York had then sleep-walked through an aimless and desultory case for denying the vote—and citizenship—to “undocumented workers.”

Following Ortiz v. New York, a stunned America woke up to discover that there were not only an amazing twenty-two million illegal aliens hiding in plain sight across the land, but that eight million of them immediately qualified to vote. In a nation split 50-50 down party and ideological lines, these eight million new voters were recognized to be the certain majority-makers in future elections, and both parties set record lows for cravenness in pandering to their “needs.” Chief among their “needs” were liberal new family reunification laws, and these instant citizens—illegal aliens only a year before—began bringing the remainders of their families to the USA. Legally.

Overnight, wavering Democrat states became locks, and swing states with large Hispanic populations went solidly “blue.” The result was the recent election which had brought Gobernador Deleon to power in Nuevo Mexico, and had also brought radical Democrats to power in the White House and both houses of congress.

Thus had come the political tsunami which swept all before it, a tidal wave triggered by an undocumented lawn maintenance worker named Fernando Ortiz.

669 posted on 04/28/2005 8:08:40 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: B4Ranch; spectre
>>Maybe you are just putting us on? Hummm?<<

I'm starting to wonder what is going on with this poster.

That's not the way I'd read it. jv probably has family members here illegally who are collecting from our wallets every month. Food, housing, schools and free medical care with anchoring for every tot that drops out of the chute is something not available at home

That seems to be a distinct possibility. Government paperwork is a nightmare, and yes I believe they do it on purpose. It's still not an excuse to fill it all out, though. If employers were smacked with fines, we could cut the problem by at least half. All that would be left is the criminals. We should know what to do with them. The same thing Mexico does, when you don't have the money to buy off the crooked cops.

"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when it deserves it."

- Mark Twain

Amen, brother Twain!

670 posted on 04/28/2005 8:27:27 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: JesseJane

You're correct. The party I registered to vote for when I was 18, is not the same party. They're becoming more and more socialistic every day. Can you imagine what our Founding Fathers must be thinking? How about every man, woman, and child who gave their lives for this country? It's shameful!

We're making a little headway towards stomping on MSM's spins and outright lies, but like you said, we need to keep up the pressure. People like "her heinousness" are trying desperately to be able to regulate sites such as FR, and independent blogs. Screw the constitution and free speech, we need to silence the opposition.

McCain is the RINO poster child. With Republicans like him, who needs Democrats? I agree that we need to keep in contact with our elected officials, just so they know exactly what their employers(that's us)want from them. If they can't resist the special interest pork, then we find a way to replace them with people who have a spine. That's not going to be easy.

Are you talking about shill's theft of FBI files, or the silverware and furniture? Can you believe how tacky she is??? The silverware????


671 posted on 04/28/2005 9:11:10 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: Happy2BMe
This is a fascinating thread about the impact the illegal alien invasion has had / is having / will have on the GOP in '06 and '08.

The only impact I'd like to see is Tancredo in 2008. The rest of the candidates, including McCain and Gingrich just want to give us more of the same.

672 posted on 04/28/2005 9:11:58 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: jveritas
He cut your taxes and gave you more money in your pockets.

Not in every case. My husband and I do not fall within the right "group" for tax cuts. We have no children, own our home, make good money, drive new cars, support illegal aliens and welfare cases with our tax dollars.

There are "tax credits" for parents, and other "tax credits", I'm sure, but a tax credit does not equal a tax cut - and the "tax cuts" are certainly NOT being given to "everyone who pays taxes".

We were "paid off" right after Bush took office, we got a "refund of $600.00. Boy! Bush was sure wonderful, my, my, I guess he really will cut taxes, we foolishly thought.

Well, La de da! This year, we had to PAY over $900.00 in taxes owed, even though all the correct amounts were taken from our checks..you see, we made the mistake of actually being self-supporting and not seeking hand-outs..and the government sure can not afford citizens who are self-supporting.

Adding the Lie that Bush told about tax cuts for everyone, with his willingness to make taxpayers bear the burden of illegals, and I see plenty of room for criticism of this President.

And yes, I voted for him.
673 posted on 04/28/2005 9:49:13 AM PDT by Iron Matron
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To: Iron Matron
I am a single as well and have no children and I get the largest refund so far this year.

Your way of making fun at President Bush tax cut is similar to the same rhetoric the Democrats and liberals have been using since July 2001. Some of them stopped using it when they found that they are getting some good money back. You are even accusing the President of lying about the tax cut.

And yes, I doubt that you voted for him.

674 posted on 04/28/2005 10:04:39 AM PDT by jveritas (The Left cannot win a national election ever again.)
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To: jveritas
RE: "I do not know how some of these guys ["Bush/Republican Party bashers"] can function in the society with such gloomy and negative attitude."

We done it before, I tell ya. We got Ronald Reagan for president as a bonus!

The Rockefeller Republicans tried to shoot down the modern conservative movement with the same "hawkers of hate" silly invective. We gave it back to them, those liberal "com-symps."

Like it or not it's what passes for debate.

The Party survived. Grew stronger with real conservatives in charge (for awhile). Now neo Rockefeller Republicans are back in charge; i.e., internationalist, business first and liberal domestic policies.

If Nelson had been president on 9/11 he too would have went after 'em all. He would have likely been inclined to overlook the French and German shenanigans and got them aboard a U.N. sponsored liberation of Iraq. He had the internationalist credentials to do that.

President Bush did not. President Bush did the right thing by acting without Old Europe. I back him to the max, "over there;" it's here I worry about.

Let the debate continue! It's what we Americans do -- but in the old days we mixed in a little substance with the invective. We can do it again.

675 posted on 04/28/2005 10:29:05 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (MSM Fraudcasters are skid marks on journalism's clean shorts.)
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To: jveritas
RE: "I am totally against illegal immigration. . . ."

I for one always knew that you were. Those were some good comments BTW that few could argue with.

IMO, the issue is what to do. Follow the President or offer alternative solutions. We can continue debating that issue when we mix in some ideas along with the invective.

I personally do not want any plan that will lead to anything like Mexican or Indian or Irish or whatever "economic diaspora" where there is a World Migration Organization (WMO) that functions for migrant labor the way the WTO functions for free trade.

And, Mexico specific, I am sick of the corrupt government of Mexico meddling in our internal affairs at all levels of business and government. I want the Bush Administration to put an end to it.

676 posted on 04/28/2005 10:45:11 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (MSM Fraudcasters are skid marks on journalism's clean shorts.)
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To: DustyMoment
RE: "The level of discourse on this forum, as heated as it sometimes gets, means that we are passionate about these topics and we care about our country."

Those are some great comments, thanks!

Talk about passion, I remember the photo of Nelson Rockefeller at the podium giving the finger to the Goldwater delegates at the 1964 convention. This is nothing new.

But, at the risk at starting something with someone who reads the following comments, the one thing that is different today is the number of traditional Democrats who were driven out of the Party when the New Left took over and it became the Rat Party. Those 1960s liberals are now Republicans, I believe.

677 posted on 04/28/2005 10:55:06 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (MSM Fraudcasters are skid marks on journalism's clean shorts.)
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To: Billthedrill
RE: "So what's a thinking conservative to do? Petition the government insistently for one. Vote locally depending on the issue for another. Strengthen state and local efforts first. And let government at all levels know that inaction is no longer an option, and that the "vigilantes" are there for a pretty good reason."

Good description of why we are Americans. It's what we do. It's our duty. It's our Country.

678 posted on 04/28/2005 11:04:36 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (MSM Fraudcasters are skid marks on journalism's clean shorts.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
We got Ronald Reagan for president as a bonus

We all agree that he is one of greatest President, do you happen to know what was his position on illegal immigration? You know the answer for that. It was amnesty for the illegal immigrants in the US. So why making Bush like the devil when it comes to illegal immigration.

679 posted on 04/28/2005 11:39:26 AM PDT by jveritas (The Left cannot win a national election ever again.)
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To: JesseJane

I doubt that witholding money will make a lot of difference. the way the liberals agenda is benefitting from the steadily increase of Rinos in our midst. It wouldn'd suprise me to find that Soros has assumed their expenses.


680 posted on 04/28/2005 12:09:01 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell ( Nuke the energy crisis-conserve the sun,wind and tides, for future generations.)
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