Posted on 04/25/2005 6:13:10 AM PDT by jveritas
What is happening to Free Republic Mr. Robinson? The Bush Haters and Republican Haters are getting louder and more daring by the hour. These phony conservatives who claim the Conservatism purity are savagely attacking President Bush and the GOP as bad as the worst liberals.
The Bash Bush feast is becoming a part of every thread. Everywhere you see Bush is a traitor, Bush wants to sell our sovereignty to Mexico, Bush is a liberal, Bush has no spine, Bush is destroying our economy, Bush is puppet in Vincent Fox hand, Bush is this Bush is that, everything wrong in this world is Bush fault.
Nothing but doom and gloom is coming from these phony conservatives. For them our economy is destroyed, liberals are controlling the government, the GOP will be finished by 2006, Mexico has invaded the US and changed its identity, China is superior to us, we are no more a superpower, and on and on and on. Every minor bump in the road is turned into a Mount Everest of catastrophe and disaster
Either Free Republic will remain the Premier political forum on the internet, a site to advance the real conservative cause and provide great and continuous support to our President Bush and the Republican Party, or it will be forum controlled by bitter and delusional phony conservatives who can never win on the ballot box, and come to FR to poison the atmosphere through their extreme kooky rhetoric and turn it into another Dummyland.
Enough is Enough.
Thanks for the reply.
Have you after 12 years here, applied for citizenship?
I really hope I will have it as early as 2008, so I can vote.
Well, good luck to you in that regard.
What kind of visa did you have for 9 years prior to receiving your green card?
after reading the whole thread, i think i understand the problem. you are new to this country and i will give you the benefit of doubt that you have no idea what our Republic is and how and why it came into being. nor the caliber of men and women that gave us this nation, nor the great costs they paid in doing so.
George Bush is all right, but no better and no worse then other politicians of the last few decades. you're problem is is that you are only comparing him to these modern politicians, who are not worth much at all.
There is a difference between a Statesman and a politician.. and a politician and a Patriot. i weigh these modern politicians against the true Patriots - the Founders of the Republic.... and thus they come up lacking. not my fault, but theirs. i have no idea who you are weighing George Bush against.. but it certainly isn't these men:
Men of Character
These 56 men (signers of the Declaration of Independance) who spoke for some two and a half million American freemen were a spectacular group of individuals. That such men were present at the moment of America's birth strongly suggests that the same Divine Providence they invoked in the Declaration of Independence had indeed planned it that way.
The signers were public spirited and patriotic citizens who had for years been important in the affairs of their local communities and governments. Ranging in age from 26 (Edward Rutledge) to 70 (Benjamin Franklin), they were for the most part materially well-off in colonial society. Eleven delegates were prosperous merchants, nine were wealthy farmers or landowners, and 24 were lawyers or judges. The colonies' most respected doctors, educators, and clergymen were numbered among their ranks.
Here were the elite of 18th century America, but few were elitist. They were moral men, mostly religious, and all men of integrity who had been welded together in a common purpose. They had a great deal to lose -- life, liberty, and property -- but they were convinced that the cause was worth the risk. That risk was not only substantial, it was imminent. On the day of the signing, the British fleet -- an armada of dozens of ships with 42,000 sailors and soldiers -- was waiting off the coast to crush these patriots and make an example of them. Behind that fleet were all the wealth and power of the British Empire.
Arrayed against such might was a Continental Army of 10,000 men and a handful of poorly equipped and badly trained militia in the several states. Few with a knowledge of history would have predicted anything but disaster and ruin for those gathered in Philadelphia during the first week of August in 1776.
In point of fact, disaster and ruin was the lot of many of the signers. Nine died of wounds or hardships during the war. Five were jailed and brutally treated. One lost all 13 of his children; and the wives, sons, and daughters of others were killed, imprisoned, harassed, or deprived of all material possessions. Seventeen signers lost everything they owned, and all of them were hunted as traitors, with most separated from their homes and families.
But none of the signers ever betrayed his pledged word. There were no defectors. No one changed his mind. Lives and fortunes were lost, but their sacred honor was never sacrificed. Half continued to serve their country after the war -- several as President, many as members of Congress, governors, and state legislators -- and a number of them played a role in drawing up the Constitution of the United States.
Tragedy and Triumph
The first signer to die, in 1777, was John Morton of Pennsylvania, a former Crown officer who had been sent to Philadelphia to oppose independence. Once persuaded otherwise, however, Morton signed the Declaration and stood by his decision, though he was ostracized by his family and friends, many of whom were Tories. That reaction deeply hurt Morton, particularly when he was ignored even after he fell gravely ill early in 1777. On his deathbed, John Morton sent these final words to those who had rejected him: "Tell them that they will live to see the hour when they shall acknowledge it [the signing] to have been the most glorious service that I ever rendered to my country."
The New York signers -- William Floyd, Philip Livingston, Francis Lewis, and Lewis Morris -- were particularly vulnerable to British retaliation. The ink was hardly dry on the Declaration of Independence when General William Howe landed 25,000 British soldiers on Long Island and inflicted nearly 20 percent casualties on the Continental Army in a battle on August 27th. Washington ordered his forces to withdraw and the Redcoats laid waste to most of the countryside, destroying in the process the homes and lands of the four who signed for New York.
The wife of William Floyd escaped with her children by boat across Long Island Sound into Connecticut and died in 1781 without ever again seeing her home.
Philip Livingston lost two homes and much of his business property, but was able to sell some of his remaining holdings to help maintain the credit of the United States. He died in 1778 while separated from his family by the war.
Francis Lewis was away when the British ransacked his home, so they seized his wife, treated her brutally, and threw her into prison under foul conditions. Her health broke during captivity and Mrs. Lewis died shortly after being released in a 1778 prisoner exchange.
The other New York signer, Lewis Morris, lost his magnificent estate, "Morrisania," which was sacked and burned. He lived in poverty for years before he was able to restore his property. Yet he so conducted himself that Benjamin Rush of Pennsylvania said of Morris that "every attachment of his heart yielded to his love of his country."
Great hardships and suffering were also inflicted upon three signers from neighboring New Jersey. John Hart, at the insistence of his dying wife, finally left her bedside to flee as a party of Hessians approached his farm. He was hunted by soldiers and dogs and was forced to hide in the woods and caves of the Sourland Mountains during icy December weather. When he was at last able to return to his home, John Hart found that his wife had died and his 13 children were scattered throughout the countryside or in captivity. His own health began to deteriorate and he was dead by the third anniversary of the signing of the Declaration.
Richard Stockton was betrayed by a loyalist and seized by the British, who subjected him to beatings and starvation. When he was finally freed in a prisoner exchange, Stockton was an invalid who died a short time later at the age of 51.
Abraham Clark, the New Jersey signer who was known as the "Poor Man's Counsellor," had two sons -- both Army officers -- who were captured and accorded barbarous treatment on the hellship Jersey. The British offered freedom for his boys if he would abandon the American cause, but Abraham Clark refused. When other members of Congress heard of the plight of the Clark sons they ordered George Washington to take a British prisoner, preferably an officer, and starve him to death in a dark hole. The mere communication of that congressional order to General Howe was enough to end the persecution of the Clark brothers and they survived their imprisonment.
During the siege of Yorktown in 1781, the British forces were under heavy attack from some 16,000 American troops, 3,000 Virginia militia, and the French fleet. The militia commander was signer Thomas Nelson Jr., who noticed that the artillery gunners were shelling everything in the vicinity except his own stately brick mansion, which was being used as British headquarters. "Why do you spare my house?" Nelson demanded of the gunners. "Sir, out of respect to you," an artilleryman replied. "Give me the cannon," Nelson shouted. The next round from the gun went through the mansion, killing the British officers inside and destroying the Nelson home. Nelson, who died in poverty after paying off his wartime debts "like an honest man," said he was only honoring a pledge he had made six years before. "I am a merchant of Yorktown, but I am a Virginian first," he declared in the House of Burgesses. "Let my trade perish. I call to God to witness that if any British troops are landed in the County of York, of which I am Lieutenant, I will wait no orders, but will summon the militia and drive the invaders into the sea!"
Joseph Hewes of North Carolina was a Quaker with a long pacifist heritage, and for many months he sided with those in Congress who were opposed to independence. After much soul-searching, Hewes decided that his belief in liberty outweighed his pacifist convictions, and he joined those urging separation from England. During the war he devoted a super- human effort to outfitting the Continental Navy, activity which alienated him from his fellow Quakers. "My country is entitled to my services, and I shall not shrink from the cause, even though it should cost me my life," he declared. Joseph Hewes died in 1779, literally from overwork, a lonely man separated by principle from his Quaker friends and family.
During the British assault on South Carolina in 1780, three of that state's signers -- Thomas Heyward Jr., Arthur Middleton, and Edward Rutledge -- distinguished themselves in the defense of Charleston. All three were captured, refused a British offer of amnesty if they would repudiate the American cause, and were shipped to the Crown stockade at St. Augustine, Florida. Heyward defied the guards by writing new words to "God Save the King" and teaching the other prisoners to sing, "God Save the States" to the old tune. The three South Carolinians were given their freedom in a prisoner exchange late in 1781. Thomas Heyward returned to find that his wife had died in hardship during his imprisonment.
Such was the caliber of the men who signed the Declaration of Independence, the men who risked their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor to establish the American Republic and guarantee our rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
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from Their Sacred Honor
by James J. Drummey
July 5, 1978
Yes, exactly what part of "illegal" don't people understand? There are people who indeed pick and choose the laws they will obey. Even though I drive a 10 yr old car, and have a good driving record, I get hit with ridiculous registration fees and insurance costs. Do I say screw the government, and not register or insure my car? Nope, I eat the cost and go without something else, rather than have my car impounded.
If you want to be a citizen of a particular country, then you have to follow that country's laws. Ooops, that would be a good citizen. Some newer immigrants seem to believe that because they are immigrants, the laws don't apply to them.
All laws should be enforced equally, and those who refuse to abide by the law should be shown the door.
Lol, I guess so. I've know a lot of legal immigrants who would love to explain things to our buddy. This guy obviously doesn't appreciate the hard work it took for him to be here legally.
I have no idea. They have freedom of movement, religion, etc. The gov't's just corrupt, like most.
That's not what I've heard if 2/3 of Congress vote to overturn it.
This really should be in breaking news.
Oh, the whining...
You would probably want the full name and number of 90 percent of this site.
Good post, and right on target.
B4, It's risky to point out this form of citizen discrimination you know. The push back has started and the race card argument is not longer effective as it has now been used to the extreme.
How I see it.
TSO, They understand the word just fine, but are telling the rest of us law-abiding Americans to kiss their ass, they'll do what they want. I recieve a panhandle letter from the GOP (RNC, CPAC, something or other) about 3 times a week..... until a strong candidate completely against illegal immigration rises to the top, my wallet is slammed shut. They can root around in foreign pockets for cash. Look at the GOP'ers that have gone wobbly over Bolton... this is disgraceful. I have had it, and I'll say it again, I've had it with the limp-fristed, powerded-wig wearing, fox-trotting elitist pansies that hide from the heat in the kitchen, and toss crumbs to we peasants with promises we are starved to hear. This steaming bag of crap slingers have been in DC too long, and it's time to move them out. We better see some action, or they will certainly see some in '06. These wusses are afraid of a vote, and I ask why?? Kerry's s*itty Anti-American voting record and absence didn't really seem to bother the uber-nutball-lefties...the media... So, why not push for a frikken vote. They are diddling away the opportunity for conservatives to lead. But no, they just my sweat on their lacy hankies. Argh.
Indeed it does.
Well, what have we here? Why, I believe it's another race baiter. Yes, indeed.
You'll soon be getting in the mail an application for full membership in the FOQNA loon society. After you've been accepted, one of the FOQNA loons will show up at your door to welcome you aboard.
Congratulations!
:)
Lesee here Czar, I think this now makes 5 or 6 times he's said it to me. Sadly, he mistakes law-abiding americans for racists. Must've gotten mis-translated in that comic book training manual I guess.
I don't need outsiders instructing me about true conservatism.
Laz's comments are right on target.
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