Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut
We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:
1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.
2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.
3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.
4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.
5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.
6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.
7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.
8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.
The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.
We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.
We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.
If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.
We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.
Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.
Let the discussion begin!
Signed,
The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.
To: Trinity_Tx
It was wrong to kill her. No other "facts" matter.
46 posted on 03/31/2005 3:54:00 AM EST by Jim Robinson
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Unfortunately, "facts" don't matter only if you are on the favored side of the issue.
Yes, I am aware so has the fun begun?
Then the fight's begin.
They are the only ones allowed an "opinion."
"Randall Terry has always been bad news for the pro-life movement...and he just proved his worth one more time, I am afraid."
As a non WPPFF member (but not disapproving of the cause in the sense that I disagree that Jeb and GW should have personally intervened and sent in NG or US troops!), may I throw my two cents in:
I watched Randall Terry these past few days on CNN and couldn't agree more. I am sorry to say, he did the pro-life cause no help here. He came across as strident and unreasonable.
There are a LOT of people in the United States (and in North America) who empathize with Michael Schiavo and find the accusations against him to be nothing more than hate-filled c**p dredged up from the right-to-life people. I don't happen to share that view, but it is out there, and when you have a Randall Terry speaking for the family, well.... it doesn't help.
I hate to argue with Freepers. That is one reason I took a break from here for a few days.
Okay...
*backing out of thread, certain that I've probably alienated any "friends" on either side I've ever had*
Bump...end of discussion, I guess
U R welcome.....;>)
Do you have a point? Or are you just trolling for a fight?
As was said in the fine movie 'Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid', "You keep thinkin', Butch, that's what you're good at."
;-)
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Thanks for that update.
Right now, it appears that anyone who might argue as I have that the federal judiciary did a pretty good job in this case given what the pleadings were is cruisin' for a bruisin'.
I don't even disagree that we need a major overhaul in our judiciary. I think Bush's nominees need swift approval.
But in the Terri case, they were attacking the rulings and opinions of conservative judges at least at the 11th Circuit level. They just don't get it.
Oh great, he's 84 and he wants
to stay on machines/tubes for
the next 20 - odd years?
Peach has been excellent.
I've been here since 1998 and have kept out of trouble.
Whether I believe in a higher power is not the issue.
The Religious Right (capped out of respect)in Free Repuplic has gotten downright idignant over Schiavo. The irony is that you have displayed unspeakable ungod-like behavior while doing it.
You're the liberal elites of our party the way you look down your noses at us more moderates.
You have refused to accept years of litigation and testimony and butted yourselves into what should have been a private family matter.
I have to had it to you all. You were instrumental in getting President Bush and Governor Jeb Bush subjected to all kinds of insults.
You wanted him to buck the rule of law so you could feel better about yourselves. And he did comply albeit with clear reservation.
Your superiority complex has hurt the Republican Party. Seventy percent of the population disagrees with you. That's a lot of Republicans.
The sooner you all get over yourselves and Schiavo gets off the forum...the better.
Hopefully President Bush can use this sad event as evidence we need more conservatives on the bench.
And I'm no fraud or imposter in here.
We can see where you're coming from so... obviously either are you.
Hope we can speak again.
Today is a grief day...don't expect logic for a week....
Hey, you been regulated to the smokey backroom?.... or just hanging out cooling your heels?....
You are much too intelligent for me. I rest my logic.
Keep your opus list handy. The word has been mentioned in passing but so far no takers.
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