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MANIFESTO OF THE WPPFF/WILD TURKEYS/COALITION OF THE SANE
Me. | 29MARCH05 | Long Cut

Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut

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To: annyokie
no, that isn't the issue as you have stated it, you are worried about squandering precious resources, and reallocating them to the more deserving. that's what i see you talking about here.

yes, i am an attorney. and if you follow my posts here you will see that i, as well as other attorneys, and conservative legal pundits, disagree with the result here. laws have led to unjust results before in our history, as has been pointed out repeatedly.

1,861 posted on 03/30/2005 3:15:13 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: the Deejay

I'm being harsh in my rhetoric and I am apologize to all who may be offended by it. That said, we need to have frank talk as a nation about when the heroic measures need to stop.

I have friends who have bankrupted themselves to the detriment of other family members over false hope.


1,862 posted on 03/30/2005 3:16:17 PM PST by annyokie (Laissez les bons temps rouler !)
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To: NautiNurse

Sorry, I thought we were talking about Terri here. You can't decide for everyone what acceptable levels of well-being are. It is up to them, or their legal guardian. Leave trying to rule the whole world to the likes of Randall Terry.


1,863 posted on 03/30/2005 3:16:19 PM PST by countess
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To: spectre

You have posted a grave misinterpretation of my line of questions--I am simply looking for a concensus of the minimum societal contribution, maximum utilization of resources that are acceptable.


1,864 posted on 03/30/2005 3:18:02 PM PST by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: mercy

Happy to say, paramedics err on the side of life.


1,865 posted on 03/30/2005 3:19:13 PM PST by Scarlet7
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To: xsmommy
I want some sanity to return to the health care system. I have health issues of my own, but I don't expect to have care forever. One caps out at $1M if I read my policy correctly.

Life is precious but somewhere there needs to be a deliminator of what actually is life.
1,866 posted on 03/30/2005 3:19:18 PM PST by annyokie (Laissez les bons temps rouler !)
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To: annyokie
That said, we need to have frank talk as a nation about when the heroic measures need to stop.

Exactly--and what better place to begin the conversation that in this forum?

1,867 posted on 03/30/2005 3:20:13 PM PST by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: NautiNurse
The courts have defined it. That's why Terri is "going home" to be with Jesus.

You just don't happen to agree with them. I do.

sw

1,868 posted on 03/30/2005 3:20:29 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: annyokie

I, for one, so agree w/you
1,000%.


1,869 posted on 03/30/2005 3:21:44 PM PST by the Deejay ( I'LL RESPECT YOUR OPINION....IF YOU'LL RESPECT MINE.....)
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To: spectre
The courts have defined it.

That is the most frightening part of this issue. Not to mention that Felos & his cronies changed the laws here in Florida to get to this end game.

1,870 posted on 03/30/2005 3:22:10 PM PST by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: NautiNurse
Well then, I reckon the Schindlers and Schivaos chose the wrong state to move to.
1,871 posted on 03/30/2005 3:23:26 PM PST by the Deejay ( I'LL RESPECT YOUR OPINION....IF YOU'LL RESPECT MINE.....)
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To: NautiNurse

I thank you for your hard work and noble ambition in this line of work.

Please speak to where we should stop or if there is a stopping point to your thinking.


1,872 posted on 03/30/2005 3:23:30 PM PST by annyokie (Laissez les bons temps rouler !)
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To: the Deejay

Thank you. I am getting weary of being lambasted.


1,873 posted on 03/30/2005 3:24:20 PM PST by annyokie (Laissez les bons temps rouler !)
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To: NautiNurse
It's not frightening to me. I would NEVER want to exist like Terri. But if you do, then make sure it's in writing.

Be well, sw

1,874 posted on 03/30/2005 3:24:31 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: xsmommy

"...i would hope that you would not judge those that disagree with what you find acceptable to be irrational, unhinged, or lawless"

Never said that, never thought that....so please don't put words in my mouth. If you thought I did...then I apologize.

The example I used was bombing abortion clinics as an act of lawlessness that is unacceptable to me.

Killing a Dr. who performs abortions(because that was the original example used) would be an act of lawlessness that is unacceptable to me.

ANYTHING done outside the law....

But speaking out against a law, disagreeing with a law, working to change a law, are all within acceptable parameters for me.

I don't sit in judgement....but I may form a judgment (which is simply an opinion) of those that go beyond those parameters.


1,875 posted on 03/30/2005 3:24:58 PM PST by justshe (Become a monthly donor; eliminate Freepathons!)
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To: annyokie
You're doing just fine. This will be over soon...

sw

1,876 posted on 03/30/2005 3:25:37 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: spectre

Thanks.


1,877 posted on 03/30/2005 3:27:30 PM PST by annyokie (Laissez les bons temps rouler !)
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To: All

The Schindlers are appealing to SCOTUS.


1,878 posted on 03/30/2005 3:28:48 PM PST by MKM1960 (Now I know how Tom Daschle felt: "I'm saddened, deeply saddened")
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To: annyokie
HERE WE GO AGAIN!!!

BACK TO THE USSC!!!

1,879 posted on 03/30/2005 3:29:00 PM PST by the Deejay ( I'LL RESPECT YOUR OPINION....IF YOU'LL RESPECT MINE.....)
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To: Mo1

Hi there Mo...on the question of whether or not Terri was actually, deliberately following that balloon...I have worked with about several young people who were diagnosed in PVS...every single time, that I provided cared for them, I had to chart as to whether or not they responded to me, did they track or follow me with their eyes, did they try to talk, etc. etc...

Most of the time, they did none of the things I have described...however, I do remember one time, when one of these young people appeared to track or follow me with his eyes, as I walked past the end of his bed... it was the only time he had ever done that, and I charted as much about him....so I am sure, that if someone had been filming him all that particular nite, this one snippet would have shown up, and it would appear to show that he was purposely tracking me...but in reality, it was probably just a random movement of his eyes, which happened to coincidentally correspond to exactly where I was at...but if they watched him for the other 8 hours of that nite shift, they would have seen him, as I had seem him most of the time...eyes wide open, eyes shifting and moving randomly, seemingly unable to focus on anything...I care for him for well over a year, for 8 hrs a nite, 5 days a week, and in all that time, that was the one and only time I ever saw him track me with his eyes...

I am not saying that is what is here in the Terri Shiavo film, just saying, relating what I have seen...


1,880 posted on 03/30/2005 3:29:08 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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