Last word on Terri Schiavo...

February 26. 2005 | Hildy

[Hildy]

For all of those who have called me every imaginable name because I dare to suggest that there are some things worse than death...I don't wish you on you anything that poor woman goes through on a minute by minute basis. Because you know so much, and are so sure that you are right because you are all so freakin self-righteous...I'm leaving FreeRepublic because I no longer want to be a part of something that has become so twisted. Hannity is right, this website has been hijacked. It was a good run...but we'll find another place. Save your jabs, I won't be reading them. To those who have privately agreed with me, and there are many, thank you. I'm just worn out and frankly, don't even care what most here think.

[daylate-dollarshort]

"The feeding tube (G-tube) is essentially a rubber hose that is sewn through the upper abdominal wall into the stomach or upper intestine. It is capped off (remaining intact) between the feedings. During feedings, the cap is removed, a large bulb syringe is used to verify placement, the bulb is then removed, and liquid nourishment is poured into the syringe, and allowed to drain in via gravity. A very, very simple procedure"

I take it that you are now conceding that the "feeding tube" is indeed implanted in Terri's body and further, that it is not only "inserted only at mealtimes" and that "[w]hen the feeding tube is not in the port, Terri's is completely free of any devices" is incorrect? In case you still have any misconceptions, these pics ought to help you....

[cwiz24]

Hildy--Please don't leave!! I think there are more people who agree with you around here then don't. Differing opinions is what make FR interesting. Only, some people need to express their dissenting opinions in a different manner. If you want to disagree with someone, attack the opinion not the person expressing it.

[Former Military Chick]

I am glad we can agree that we can disagree on Free Republic. I certainly did not mean to use the incorrect term of force fed. Currently she has not had any therapy to see if she can feed herself, is that correct? As I have said why this has waited until the 11th hour escapes me. I am sure many will say it is the fault of the husband. Still, it is concerning.

But, I am curious, if the tube is not placed how does she eat. Can she say she is hungry? Tell them that she is full?

These aren't pretty questions and they are not intended to be unkind but the reality.

As I have said we may have to agree to disagree. I understand the desire to make sure every stone is turned. I do not oppose the parents and their desire to do what they feel is best for their daughter as I do not oppose the husband (schmuck or not) to do what he feels is right. In the end, I do hope they honor the court and one another and allow Terri to either live or die with dignity.

As I said in the comment where I mentioned the force fed I also said if she were like most daughters she most likely would like to see her family come together in the best interest of her.

(No need to explain how death occurs when food is denied it has been explained on this and other threads)

[DJ MacWoW]

Let me spell it out for you. She's not hooked to anything. There is no machine keeping her alive. People are picturing her hooked up to some sort of contraption and she's not.

You didn't answer my question in post #400 to your post: I have been in Judge Greer's Court on more than several occasions

In what capacity?

[DJ MacWoW]

I certainly did not mean to use the incorrect term of force fed. Currently she has not had any therapy to see if she can feed herself, is that correct?

Judge Greer has ordered that no one can try to feed her by mouth.

Sorce

In April 2001, her death by dehydration was ordered to begin, and the day her feeding was stopped her brother and sister came by with a spoon and a cup of pudding, asking a nurse to try to feed her by mouth." "The nurse refused and reported the request to others.
When Schiavo found out he demanded that Bobby and Suzanne be removed from the list of approved visitors, and Greer rubberstamped his request"

Source

Judge Greer's response when he learned of the feeding attempt: “I don’t want anyone trying to feed that girl”, Greer thundered from the bench in 2001. Greer’s statement, “the law of the case is that she is going to die”, is part of the court record.

[daylate-dollarshort]

In what capacity?

I didn't answer you because frankly, my capacity when I have appeared in Judge Greer's court is none of your business.

[sinkspur]

I, for one, will miss you and your posts. We didn't always agree, but you should not have been condemned over your disagreements.

Don't leave. There's way too much "butt-pattin'" on here as it is. Healthy debate is a very good thing.

[Hildy]

You're right...I acted in haste. And to all of you (and you know who you are) who think you ran me out of town...well, I'm not going anywhere. I love FR because it is the place where like minded people can disagree from time to time without fear of repriseal, of being labeled and being STALKED (yes, I've been stalked). So I'm back in, I'm giving even more money to FreeRepublic (I beg everyone to do so) and the good people here will win out. To those who want to drown dissent here on FR...you will soon see that the Good and the Mannered always prevail.

[Spiff]

You're right! We can't ask her how things are, so things MUST be WORSE THAN DEATH! Can we shoot her instead of forcing her to suffer through the horrible death of starvation? Just asking. Monster.

[DJ MacWoW]

I didn't answer you because frankly, my capacity when I have appeared in Judge Greer's court is none of your business.

You volunteered the statement: "I have been in Judge Greer's Court on more than several occasions

I told you 3 or 4 days ago that you have an agenda. On these threads you're posing as an average joe. It's now obvious that you are not.

[Hildy]

I don't know what you're talking about, since I've said since day one that I think she should be given to the custody of her Parents (as long as they care for her in their home with the money that's left and then their own money) since there is no signed consent form. My issue is with people who think nobody should have the right do die with dignity. That's where I have said there are some things worse than death. My only other crime was posting a non-judgemental, chonological explanation of everything that has gone on in this case. But some here don't care one iota about facts. Just about feelings. If that makes me a monster in your eyes, I'll wear it as a badge of honor.

[EternalVigilance]

Nice bid for attention.

Looks like it worked with some.

Most of us didn't believe you were actually leaving for a minute.

[Spiff]

I don't know what you're talking about, since I've said since day one that I think she should be given to the custody of her Parents (as long as they care for her in their home with the money that's left and then their own money) since there is no signed consent form. My issue is with people who think nobody should have the right do die with dignity. That's where I have said there are some things worse than death. My only other crime was posting a non-judgemental, chonological explanation of everything that has gone on in this case. But some here don't care one iota about facts. Just about feelings. If that makes me a monster in your eyes, I'll wear it as a badge of honor.

I didn't know that you wanted Terry given to the custody of her parents. But your dying with dignity remark still leads one to suspect that you believe that a person in Terri's state could be starved to death so that they could die with dignity. Maybe lethal injection is a better way to die with dignity? Maybe I completely misunderstand you - I don't know your history on this topic - I just got that impression from your short-lived opus.

[Hildy]

Why do you have the need to answer me. If you don't like me, what I say, what I do, why even take the time?

[Hildy]

I believe all human beings should be respected enough to decide how they want or do not want to live. That should be done by a Living Will in a case like Terri's or in a case like the young woman in Million Dollar Baby, of someone of sound mind. And yes, a lethal injection is a more humane way of dying, don't you think?

[EternalVigilance]

Why do you have the need to answer me.

Because your views, as stated on the Terri threads, are dangerous. They are the kind of views that have gotten us to the point where we are faced in Ameria with a lawless and unconstitutional judicial execution of a helpless woman and a segment of the citizenry who thinks that's just peachy.

[EternalVigilance]

That should be done by a Living Will in a case like Terri's or in a case like the young woman in Million Dollar Baby, of someone of sound mind.

So, you approve of murder?

[Spiff]

I believe all human beings should be respected enough to decide how they want or do not want to live. That should be done by a Living Will in a case like Terri's or in a case like the young woman in Million Dollar Baby, of someone of sound mind. And yes, a lethal injection is a more humane way of dying, don't you think?

Would shooting her or cleanly beheading her also be a more humane way of allowing Terri to die with dignity? You don't seem to mind the murder of the quadriplegic in Million Dollar Baby by lethal injection, what's another murder? Hell, we slaughter 1.3 million babies a year in this country, what's a few more invalids, quadriplegics, cripples, and retards, right!? Why don't we put little suicide booths around so that people can off themselves for any old reason? What a wonderful world that would be. Our society is already sickened to a point that respect for life is not very common, one can only shudder to imagine a society where killing yourself or someone else (ie. dying with dignity, mercy killing, euthanasia) is perfectly legal and socially acceptable.

You may be a monster. Maybe you should take a real hard look at what you're promoting and its unintended consequence.

[EternalVigilance]

What, did you leave FR again?

[EternalVigilance]

Oh well. I have more important things to do anyway. You don't strike me as someone who will listen to reason...