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To: Cold Heat

I think some folks are confusing the term "open borders" with "pro-amnesty". There are definitely pro-amnesty FReepers. I'm guessing the people who voted in support of illegal immigration are Libertarian-types or other social liberals.


1,690 posted on 02/12/2005 12:37:49 AM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: k2blader
I think some folks are confusing the term "open borders" with "pro-amnesty".

Open Borders....to the yes people it means uncontrolled Immigration - to the no people it means uncontrolled Invasion. Seems clear to me that both are correct.

1,693 posted on 02/12/2005 12:41:52 AM PST by TheOtherOne
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There are definitely pro-amnesty FReepers.

I would debate that. Most feel that the Bush plan is not amnesty.

Amnesty of the 86 variety, is to pardon all sins and grant green cards (eventual citizenship) to all.

The bush plan has no such requirements and not even a suggestion of it. green cards would be applied for in the normal way.

The plan is more akin to a return to the Braciero(spell ck) program for migrant workers and a application from Mexico solves the forgiveness business, and I have suggested a optional 2500.00 fine is one did not use false docs and admits the crime, pays the fine and serves a probation.

1,707 posted on 02/12/2005 12:52:39 AM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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