[Cold Heat]

There are definitely pro-amnesty FReepers.

I would debate that. Most feel that the Bush plan is not amnesty.

Amnesty of the 86 variety, is to pardon all sins and grant green cards (eventual citizenship) to all.

The bush plan has no such requirements and not even a suggestion of it. green cards would be applied for in the normal way.

The plan is more akin to a return to the Braciero(spell ck) program for migrant workers and a application from Mexico solves the forgiveness business, and I have suggested a optional 2500.00 fine is one did not use false docs and admits the crime, pays the fine and serves a probation.

[moehoward]

There are definitely pro-amnesty FReepers.

I would debate that. Most feel that the Bush plan is not amnesty.

Now there's a poll for Freepers to take. If it's been done I'd love to see the results.

[k2blader]

When I use the word "amnesty" I'm referring to the inherent meaning of the word:

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3 entries found for amnesty.

am·nes·ty    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (mn-st)
n. pl. am·nes·ties

A general pardon granted by a government, especially for political offenses.

tr.v. am·nes·tied, am·nes·ty·ing, am·nes·ties

To grant a general pardon to.

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[Latin amnstia, from Greek amnsti. See amnesia.]

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Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
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Main Entry: am·nes·ty
Pronunciation: 'am-n&s-tE
Function: noun
Inflected Form: plural -ties
: an act of clemency by an authority (as a government) by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individuals <illegal-alien farm workers seeking amnesty &#8212;National Law Journal>

Source: Merriam-Webster Dictionary of Law, © 1996 Merriam-Webster, Inc.

amnesty

n 1: a period during which offenders are exempt from punishment 2: a warrant granting release from punishment for an offense [syn: pardon] 3: the formal act of liberating someone [syn: pardon, free pardon] v : grant a pardon to (a group of people)

Source: WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University

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Bush's proposal is an amnesty proposal. It matches the above. It also allows illegals to apply for citizenship.

See also: "pardon".

[raybbr]

I would debate that. Most feel that the Bush plan is not amnesty.

amnesty

n 1: a period during which offenders are exempt from punishment 2: a warrant granting release from punishment for an offense [syn: pardon] 3: the formal act of liberating someone [syn: pardon, free pardon] v : grant a pardon to (a group of people)

I think Bush's plan falls under the definition.

Then there is the other question: What makes you think that people that have been breaking the law for years will all of a sudden decide to start following it? What's the incentive. Oh, wait. I know - we'll let them collect social security. No wonder Bush wants to start working on SS right away.