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To: NeuronExMachina

Bottom line. If you turn the clock back far enough and if you believe in evolution you have no option but to believe in non living things giving rise to living things. Something a high school biology text contradicts yet MUST be assumed if you believe in evolution. The consequence of NOT believing this is that life has always existed, something natural science CAN prove false. Change the name from Spontaneous Generation to whatever you want. The end remains the same. The evolutionist states that non living material gave life to living material at some point (He has too).

More pseudo science for you!

Since evolution does such a good job at explaining everything, the evolutionist had to create another theory just to support his bigger theory. Where are the transitional life forms?????? There are none. But if evolution were true you should have them (Fossil records). So, you now end up believing in Spontaneous Generation and that evolution actually takes place in big “leaps” at once. That theory is called Punctuated Equilibrium. Check that one up! “Well, we really can’t explain our theory with facts and data so we’ll just make something else up to support our theory, our faith based belief in something which requires miracles if it is true.”

Evolution is a temple built on a weak foundation. It is “presented” as fact, which it is by definition not. It is embraced by many who laugh at religions for creationism while all along falling victim to the same fallacy. Religion can not prove it’s position (Creationism) and is largely based on circular arguments. The evolutionist does the same, although he “attempts” to portray as if he has science backing him. It’s your choice where you put your “faith”. Neither can be conclusively proven to date. But the evolutionist "knows" he's right, just as the bible told one that God created man in an act of creationism.

Red6


1,398 posted on 12/05/2004 11:02:15 AM PST by Red6
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To: Red6
Bottom line. If you turn the clock back far enough and if you believe in evolution you have no option but to believe in non living things giving rise to living things.

Sorry, but that's not the case. Evolution only covers what happens to living organisms -- it makes no claims about where the initial organisms came from. Similarly, Newton's theory of gravity only covers objects which already exist -- it makes no claims about where those objects came from, or even what gravity itself is.

As far as evolutionary theory is concerned, it doesn't matter if life initially came about due to God saying some powerful words, autocatalytic chemicals, self-replicating vesicles, or a giant tortoise. All that matters is that it fits the data we currently have, and accurately predicts future data.

Granted, I happen to also think that the abiogenesis hypothesis will ultimately have evidence to support it, but recognize that it's not a scientific theory as there isn't any concrete evidence for it. Until the laboratories working on the problem show autocatalytic sets or self-replicating vesicles emerging from conditions like those of early earth, we can't really say for certain.

Where are the transitional life forms?????? There are none.

Problem is, whenever someone finds a fossil which fills a "gap" in the fossil record, creationists just point at it and say, "Look! Now you have two gaps!"

To delve into the math a little, species can also be thought of as somewhat like local minima of a gradient descent function. At least in computer simulations and the biological experiments which have been done so far, when a group gets knocked out of its current minima, it converges towards a new minima FAST.

1,500 posted on 12/05/2004 11:46:46 PM PST by NeuronExMachina
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