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To: Fester Chugabrew
I definitely know you have only some notion of how the fossil record came into being because neither you nor anyone else was there to observe it.

I defintely know you have only some notion of how heavy elements are created by supernovas because neither you, nor anyone else was there to observe it.

Actually I was thinking more along the lines of flash flooding like the kind that has been documented by human voice and hand over generations since the time of recorded history. A much more reliable source than the imagination, to be sure.

So...your big evidence here--which you distinguish from a "story" is that someone told someone who told someone who told someone...? Of course there are lots of ancient flood stories--there were lots of ancient floods. An ice chunk a mile high was melting off the Northern Hemisphere. You got a story about how this, all-at-once flood pressed these Grand Canyon fossils into a solid rock about 1/2 the size of 4 states, with a mile deep gash in it?

Who wants to put faith in a story and call it science.

Just scientists, apparently.

1,165 posted on 12/02/2004 2:46:43 PM PST by donh
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To: donh
I defintely know you have only some notion of how heavy elements are created by supernovas . . .

Hehe. I would think you would have inferred that I don't even have the slightest notion.

So...your big evidence here--which you distinguish from a "story" is that someone told someone who told someone who told someone...?

Well, yes. It is a historical narrative maintained with unusual care. I fail to see how anyone in their right mind would fabricate such a story. Perhaps you could explain since you appear to be an arbiter of sanity. To see that the great flood narrative spread from generation to generation without any serious questioning until the Enlightenment makes it that much more believeable. The fossil record also seems to agree with a world covered by forty days worth of heavy precipitation.

You got a story about how this, all-at-once flood pressed these Grand Canyon fossils into a solid rock about 1/2 the size of 4 states, with a mile deep gash in it?

Why confine things to the Grand Canyon? Get back to me when you figure out what percentage of the earth's surface that has been mined for evidence related to the geological column. (Hint: it's really, really small.) For my part I will predict that, if/when it's mined completely, the evidence will fit in nicely with a worldwide flood that began approximately 7,150 years, 6 months, 3 days, 2 hours, 20 minutes, 18 seconds ago, give or take 40 days.

1,168 posted on 12/02/2004 3:27:50 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: donh; Fester Chugabrew
I defintely know you have only some notion of how heavy elements are created by supernovas because neither you, nor anyone else was there to observe it.

FYI, each of the reactions that astrophysicists hypothesize to occur in supernovae have been seen in fusion reactions here on earth. Not only that, the by-products of the reactions are seen, right down to the flavors of neutrinos expected in each reaction.

1,177 posted on 12/02/2004 6:39:15 PM PST by ThinkPlease (Fortune Favors the Bold!)
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