Posted on 11/19/2004 5:35:36 AM PST by SheLion
Exacly SheLion..........and they'll only go as far as we allow them to. RED STATES RISE AGAIN! HeeHeHee......
Oh don't worry about me. I have had my trials and tribulations to get through in this life. I'm a survivor. :)
I love to smoke. When the day comes when I hate it, then and only then will I quit.
Thanks for your concern, though.
I was quite a drinker when I was younger, never could get into beer though. Give me a nice single malt and I'm golden.
Good on you. Personally, I would not want one of these places to be built near my home just because it lowers the property values.
From the title of the thread.
And anything I decide to comment on , on a comment board, is my business.
I have a perfect right to comment or suggest anything I wish to anyone I wish. They are under no obligation to pay any attention whatsoever to it.
For instance, I suggest you shut the hell up and mind your own business about what is my business and what isn't. LOL
Where on earth did you ever get the idea that any of this is any of your business? :^}
I'd happily patronize a restaurant that didn't allow smoking and avoid those that did.
Asbestos!
A report came out about 10 years that saccharin caused stomach cancer. That is all I use in my coffee. I was scared to death. But.........I kept using it. And I am still using it. I have no stomach problems.
"If you smoke in your house and people don't like it, they don't have to stop by"
The same applies to a private business.
"Drinking is also legal. How can the people who run football stadiums stop you from buying alcohol at the end of the 3rd quarter?"
This a rule implemented and enforced by the STADIUM OWNERS, not the government. I have no problem with resturaunt/bar owners implementing a no-smoking policy; I do have a problem with the government mandating it.
"Why can't you have an open container in your car (in most states)? Driving is legal but why can't I drive 125 mph down the highway? (please don't point out that it is legal in some areas that are barren wastelands... I'm aware of that)"
While your car itself may be private property, it is traversing public property and therefore (reasonably, IMO), the government has an interest in how you behave in it. You CAN have an open container in your car if your car is parked in your garage.
"Owning guns is legal but I can't keep one in my car unless it's unloaded and separated from the ammo (unless I have a CCW)."
Aside from the car-as-not-quite-private-property issue I noted above, you DO have the right to carry it in most states with the proper permit (as you noted). We have a legitimate 2nd amendment argument with any states that don't allow CC
Oh yes. More waste of taxpayer's money.
Great comeback. You threw out the Constitutional Republic bit. Now, I can read the Constitution to you line by line and I am 100% sure we won't come across any mention of smoking.
Oh, are you talking about the "life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness" rights? If you are, then let me get out my copy of the Declaration of Independence so we can go over that document also.
Halleluiah!
And that would be A-Ok, IF the business owner and his patrons decided that this would be the best option for the business.
I'm sorry to report that that is not an option for me. I'm just hard wired to worry about people I like. I can't help it.
I have had my trials and tribulations to get through in this life. I'm a survivor. :)
In the end, none of us is a survivor in this phase of our lives. And smoking in this one probably will not matter in the next.
I love to smoke. When the day comes when I hate it, then and only then will I quit.
Unfortunately, most people who are hooked on it will never reach that stage until they are terminal from it or the quality of their lives is so poor that smoking becomes secondary to drawing the next breath. But I agree with you on one thing, you will never quit because someone else wants you to.
Thanks for your concern, though.
You are welcome, but like I said, I can't help myself. Maybe I'll pray for you to quit, unless that would piss you off. LOL
I use sugar! :)
I always tell people that I'm going to die the old fashioned way...I'm going to earn it! Give me my cigs, dr pepper, steak, baked potato and cheesecake. :)
"If smoking and second hand is the big killer the highly paid professional anti-smoking zealots say it is, don't you think they would have issued an all out ban and just pulled tobacco products off of the market?"
Tobacco products would never be approved for sale if developed today (probably not alcohol either). The reason they continue to be legal is mostly about money- its a huge business, and it rakes in huge taxes for the government. Also, our government (rightly) recognizes our right to make poor health choices. As a vascular surgeon, I see the effects of smoking every day. I have seldom met a patient that doesn't acknowledge the health effects of smoking. But, you won't find a more ardent opponent of government imposed smoking bans than me.
Wouldn't piss me off at all. But the good Lord knows me, and I, too, have prayed for a sign to help me stop. But.........He never sent one.
I went to a Priest once, and ask him about this issue. He told me "God doesn't worry about what goes into our bodies, but what comes out." I have been at peace with this issue every since.
I don't think you're an anti-smoker, but I don't think you have an idea of what smokers put up with anymore just to consume a still legal product.
You don't like the smell. That is the ONLY reason many would vote to strip a property owner of their rights. You personally might not vote that way, I don't know. But, would you actively work against such a ban because it DOES strip away a property owner's right? Or would you say, "I wouldn't vote for it but I'd sure enjoy the results."
Just like the question you asked of smokers about 2nd amendment rights. How many 2nd amendment backers are worried about the rights of a property owner being taken away over the smell of smoke?
I've fought the smoking ban battle, AND the 2nd amendment battle and luckily I've won both in my state - so far.
Well, that's good. The government needs to butt out of restricting a legal commodity.
But, most of us realize that they want to control, restrict and ban the smokers, but God forbid should the state lose that tax money on cigarettes. Double standard. They say they want to cut down on smokers in the state, yet they can't balance their stupid budgets with OUT us.
They talk out of both sides of their mouths.
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