[Chemist_Geek]

Take terrorist out of the border mix, just for a moment. This never ending flood of millions are choking off our highways, our schools, our hospitals, our jobs, our social services, our jails, and everything else. The crime and fraud is epic thanks to our leaders that pander to this coast to coast lawlessness......

Wow, the hyperbole is getting deep in here.

Look in the background. That's a foreign country. I don't see an endless conga line Boston Marathon of illegal immigrants. I live here, half a mile from the border. I'd have noticed.

BTW, this public park is a place someone wants to install a mortar pit, or turn into a free fire zone. No thanks.

The vast majority of Americans see illegal immigration as not malum in se. They understand that there is nothing inherently evil about trying to better provide for oneself and one's family, by coming to the United States. What is apparent is that some people do not believe that anyone who is not a U.S. citizen isn't really a human being. That's revolting.

If you want to "seal the boarders," then you're going to have to convince a majority of the People that your specific, detailed plan is worth the cost and consequences, intended and unintended. Hyperbolic rhetoric and wild accusations do nothing to serve your cause, nor does attempting to sell a bigoted anti-Mexican plan under false pretenses.

We've already, in other threads, calculated this. The United States of America has 31,958 km of perimeter. (That's 19,858 miles.) To put a guard post with two guards 24/7 every quarter mile, would require 79,432 posts and 794,320 guards, not including support staff, reaction forces, etc. Let's assume a remarkably efficient three REMFs per guard; that means we'd need 3,177,280 new Federal employees. A GS-3 Federal law enforcement employee earns $23,002 annually; even if every employee of the Fortress America department was the same bottom pay grade, you'd have to budget $73,083,794,560 annually for salaries alone.

Not to mention paying for all the machine-gun ammunition and mortar bombs they'd be shooting at and dropping on anything that moves in the border free-fire zone.

Some small-government Conservative program, huh?

[Poohbah]

A GS-3 Federal law enforcement employee earns $23,002 annually; even if every employee of the Fortress America department was the same bottom pay grade, you'd have to budget $73,083,794,560 annually for salaries alone.

Loaded rates for employees are approximately 2.5X the salary. So the loaded rate for these folks would be $57,505, or $182,709,486,400 annually.

[Dan Evans]

Nice pitch Chemist, but no sale.

Your pretty picture of the happy kids on the merry-go-round was taken in Wyandotte, Michigan directly across the river from Ontario, Canada. Don't you think that's a little bit misleading?

The conga line forms on the southern border.

But if you want to talk about immigration in Michigan, fine. Talk about a city 12 miles from there, Hamtramck, where Islam has taken over the city council:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13450

[Dan Evans]

To put a guard post with two guards 24/7 every quarter mile..

..would be kind of stupid. A better idea would be to use cameras, surveillance UAVs. And then post guys with humvees and helicopters every fifty miles or so. It would a lot cheaper.

I'm talking about remote areas, not Wyandotte, Michigan where you live.

Run the numbers on that. Get back to us.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Oh, that's right, you live near the border, and you say we are not being invaded by millions. Hehehe

Thanks for your cutting edge insight Geek.

:o