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Rumsfeld says it wasn't necessarily sarin
AP/WTKR ^ | 5/18/2004 | ...

Posted on 05/18/2004 8:21:40 AM PDT by JohnGalt

Washington-AP -- Don't jump to any conclusions just yet. That warning comes from Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, after the U-S military in Iraq announced that a roadside bomb containing sarin nerve gas had exploded near a U-S military convoy.

Rumsfeld told a Washington, D-C audience that the "field test" showing the presence of sarin may not be accurate. He says more analysis needs to be done -- and that it may take some time to find out just what the chemical was.

In Baghdad, officials said the bomb was apparently left over from the Saddam era. They said two members of a military bomb squad were treated for "minor exposure" -- but that there were no serious injuries.

One official says the shell apparently contained two chemicals that are designed to combine and create sarin -- but that they didn't mix properly.


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1 posted on 05/18/2004 8:21:41 AM PDT by JohnGalt
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To: JohnGalt

People in the field and in Iraq say it IS sarin.

But keep pretending that finding sarin and mustard gas is nothing. Saddam never had WMD. Saddam wasn't a threat to the US or the region. Saddam didn't have a direct relationship with Osama bin Laden. Saddam didn't know 9/11 was coming.

You are possibly the biggest Saddam supporter on FR. You think you are the only true conservative. I could write your lines myself.

And despite your mantra and parsing of words that sarin isn't technically a WMD, the former UN inspectors and military experts on this matter have continuously referredt to sarin as a WMD under generally accepted usage.


2 posted on 05/18/2004 8:27:14 AM PDT by Peach (,)
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To: Peach

See the tagline.


3 posted on 05/18/2004 8:28:48 AM PDT by JohnGalt (Chalabi Republicans: Soft on Treason)
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To: JohnGalt

Way to stick your foot in your mouth Rumsfield.

The bright side is that the Democrats/media will suddenly stop calling for his resignation.


4 posted on 05/18/2004 8:29:22 AM PDT by Nataku X (Please wait until November 3, 2004 to squabble. A house divided falls!)
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To: JohnGalt

There have been multiple finds of chemical weapons that have been categorized as 'pesticides' including others in artillery shells and bulk storage in military ammunition dumps. If this is labeled another pesticide...it was meant for two legged pests. I for one think we ought to fumigate the UN building with some of these pesticides.


5 posted on 05/18/2004 8:31:28 AM PDT by blanknoone (I voted for it before I voted against it, and I didn't even show up for the vote!)
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To: Peach

yeah the Iraqi Survey Group confirmed it was Sarin, I assume they are a little more advanced than a field test. My impression listening to Rumsfield yesterday was the testing was needed to determine the origin and time the Sarin gas was created not whether it was actually Sarin or not (of course the media would never distort something like that). However, does anyone else know of a purpose of a shell design like the this one (binary design, holding two different chemicals, etc)? What other purpose for such a shell would there be? By all accounts it was specifically designed for binary weapons delivery but I'm not an expert. Are there any other possibilities?


6 posted on 05/18/2004 8:32:27 AM PDT by Dr Snide (vis pacem, para bellum - Prepare for war if you want peace)
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To: JohnGalt

Not again....


7 posted on 05/18/2004 8:32:39 AM PDT by OneTimeLurker
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To: JohnGalt

That's your only answer for everything. Everyone is a traitor, no one else is conservative but you, you know better than the combined wisdom of two presidential administrations which deemed Iraq a threat to the region and the United States, blah blah blah.

BTW, I find it so interesting that you condemn members of the administration and Chalabi far more than you have ever condemned Saddam Hussein, one of the biggest tyrants of my lifetime and certainly in the history of Iraq. Just like a leftist, you evidentally never met a dictator you didn't like and instead condemn those who try to bring freedom to an oppressed people. Careful - your humanity is missing.


8 posted on 05/18/2004 8:32:56 AM PDT by Peach (,)
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To: Nakatu X
There have been a lot of false reports of WMD's since the invasion. Rumsfeld is just covering his bases in case the report turns out to be incorrect.

Plus, there's a big advantage to doing it this way. Yesterday's story came out on the same day as the murder of the President of the Governing Council. It was buried in the news. If there is confirmation, that information can be released at a time in a manner calculated for maximum exposure. In effect, we get to announce it twice.

Rumsfeld is no dummy.

9 posted on 05/18/2004 8:33:45 AM PDT by XJarhead
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To: Nakatu X

I'm beginning to wonder if this "it may not be WMD" line, that we've heard after EVERY SINGLE FIELD DETECTION OF WMDs SINCE THE WAR STARTED... is really to protect our troops. Weigh protecting the troops and "being right" about WMDs... Rummy will protect the troops first every time.


10 posted on 05/18/2004 8:34:13 AM PDT by BillyCrockett
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To: Peach
My first allegiance is to my country, not the Iraqi people, Leftie.
11 posted on 05/18/2004 8:35:11 AM PDT by JohnGalt (Chalabi Republicans: Soft on Treason)
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To: JohnGalt
In Baghdad, officials said the bomb was apparently left over from the Saddam era.

Today's prize winner in the "Statement Of The Blatantly Obvious" contest.

12 posted on 05/18/2004 8:36:30 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("The difference between fiction and reality? Fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy)
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To: JohnGalt

Allegiance to your country has somehow blinded you to the combined wisdom of two administrations who ALL believe that Iraq was a threat to America. Some patriot. You are blinded by your fear.


13 posted on 05/18/2004 8:37:11 AM PDT by Peach (,)
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To: JohnGalt
Apparently these "field tests" are all worse than useless. They seem to have a 100% false positive rate. Like that time we found what turned out to be merely pesticides in big, camoflaged drums near military installations, but the stupid "field tests" came up positive for chem. weapons. Like that.

I don't see why we need to test anything in the first place. We KNOW there were no WMD in Iraq (because Bush lied) so what's the point of all these tests anyway. Just tell the two soldiers being treated for wounds, that this stuff probably had some innocent use. Like pesticides, perhaps.

Iraq was really heavily invested in the pesticide business.

14 posted on 05/18/2004 8:37:57 AM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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My first allegiance is to my country, not the Iraqi people, Leftie

Yeah, Micheal Moore says the same thing.

15 posted on 05/18/2004 8:38:07 AM PDT by muleskinner (Oh, when the Krauts go marching in....)
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To: Nakatu X
The bright side is that the Democrats/media will suddenly stop calling for his resignation.

Ooh... could that be Rummy's motive here? is he that sly? I think he is ;-)

16 posted on 05/18/2004 8:38:40 AM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: muleskinner

LOL. Really, I think it's fear of WMD and the destruction they could easily reign down on this country that makes people deny they exist.


17 posted on 05/18/2004 8:39:23 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: JohnGalt

Foxnews is just reporting in this half-hour that the Army is confirming that it is Sarin. Rumsfeld...as the administration has done throughout, is playing the role of the skeptic, so they don't get caught with their foot in their mouth.


18 posted on 05/18/2004 8:39:41 AM PDT by cwb (Liberals: Always fighting for social justice in all the wrong places.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

In Baghdad, officials said the bomb was apparently left over from the Saddam era.
Today's prize winner in the "Statement Of The Blatantly Obvious" contest.


not as obvious as you may think. A lot of Europeans were trying to make the claim that it came from another country (you know since Saddam had no WMDs etc)and of course that it was Bush's fault for it being there. So while to most non-psychotic people it seems silly, not necearrily so for Democrats.


19 posted on 05/18/2004 8:40:25 AM PDT by Dr Snide (vis pacem, para bellum - Prepare for war if you want peace)
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To: cwb

Shhhh. You are talking too much sense and some minds simply cannot handle that. LOL


20 posted on 05/18/2004 8:40:49 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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