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Will he be forced out? (Disabled Vet's homestead to be first in FL history taken by eminent domain)
The Golden Gate Gazette ^ | Kaydee Tuff

Posted on 04/01/2004 5:33:23 AM PST by AAABEST

Jesse Hardy's fight to keep his 160 acres in the Southern Golden Gate Estates will return to Tallahassee, Apr. 13, for a final hearing before the Florida Cabinet.

"It's possible the Cabinet could defer it again, but we're confident they will approve eminent domain," says Kathalyn Gaither, land acquisition public information officer for the Department of Environmental Protection (DEP).

Located in what is called the "Hole in the Donut," the property is part of the state's 55,000-acre buy-out to restore natural water flows to the Southern Golden Gate Estates (SGGE), once slated for development.

Hardy has owned the property for 28 years. He is the last of thousands of individual property owners whose land was targeted for the Picayune Strand State Forest. What began as a willing seller program turned into condemnation when the project was tied to the $100 million Everglades water restoration project in the late 1990s.

If the state condemns Hardy's land, it will be the first time in Florida history that a homesteaded property has been taken for environmental purposes.

Gaither says if Hardy does not take the $1.5 million offer that's on the table, the selling price will go back to the state's original offer of $909,158 if the Cabinet and Governor approve eminent domain.

The 67-year-old Florida native says he doesn't care - the property is not for sale at any price. A disabled Navy SEAL who has never lived an easy life, he says he's not interested in a condo on the beach or living in an urban setting.

"It's my home and it means more to me than the money. If it (condemnation) was for something useful to the public health and well-being, like a school, a fire station, or a hospital, I would move with no problem," he says.

Although he is skeptical of the success of portions of the rehydration plan, Hardy maintains he supports the project. He says his land is not necessary to the restoration project and he will not be adversely affected by it.

"I'm not against any of the environmentalists' work to rehydrate the Southern Golden Gate Estates," he says. "I'm all for it. I just want to keep my home."

Gaither says Hardy's land is necessary to the project.

"The South Florida Water Management District has conducted modeling that shows that even if there is no flooding on his property, there will be no roads and there will be demolition all around him, posing safety concerns," she says.

Hardy, who once sold real estate for Golden Gate Estates' developer Gulf American Corporation (GAC), homesteaded his rustic property in 1976. With the exception of an excavation pond underway, the property looks very much the same today as it did 28 years ago.

Using propane and a gas-powered generator, he lives in a tiny wood frame home with a friend he took in and her handicapped eight-year-old son.

"Living here is what has kept me going," he says. "It's my home. I'm too old to go anywhere else."

Hardy continues to hold out. One year ago, the governor and Cabinet were asked to initiate condemnation proceedings on his property. Instead, they instructed DEP land acquisition agents to continue to try to negotiate a deal.

Hardy and Gaither both agree that no progress has been made over the past year.

"If I let them get away with it, and they take my home for environmental reasons, then every homeowner in the state of Florida will be in jeopardy," he says. "There's nothing to restore on my land - nothing but pine and Sabal palm. It's my home - it's just that simple - and I won't give it up. I will fight to the very end. I will spend every nickel I've got and can get to fight this."

Hardy will not be attending the hearing in Tallahassee, but will be represented by his attorney. He says it is too emotional of an issue for him. He is also undergoing cancer treatment after having been diagnosed with the disease in November.

He is hopeful area residents will show their support by writing letters asking the governor not to grant the DEP eminent domain and allow him to keep his land.

Estates resident Cindy Kemp, founding member of the Property Rights Action Committee (PRAC), says the group fully backs Hardy. The group created and is distributing brochures on his plight and is promoting his cause through a song, "The Ballad of Jesse Hardy," written by a friend of Hardy and sung by Estates resident Bill Lhota.

"It's not right what they're doing to Jesse," she says. "We're hoping residents will understand how this ultimately affects them and their Constitutional rights."

Hardy hired an engineer to complete a study that shows the elevation of his property at 12 feet. At that height, he says his property will never be affected by the restoration project and he doesn't understand why the state is insisting on buying him out.

Nearly three years ago, Collier County gave Hardy the go-ahead to build the first of four proposed 20-acre ponds to create a fish farm, which he would like to one day open to the public for recreational fishing.

Several environmental groups including the Florida Wildlife Federation and the Collier County Audubon Society opposed the concept, but agreed to support the construction of one 20-acre pond. Any future excavation will have to be re-approved by the county this spring.

In that time, Hardy says he has dug about seven of the 20 acres of the pond. He has also completed and stocked a smaller pond, which he uses to gauge water quality and predator issues. Fill from excavation of the ponds has been purchased by the county for road building.

Hardy says his dream is to one day open his piece of paradise up to the public to fish the ponds and enjoy what he has loved for 27 years.

DEP officials say that dream is unlikely. Gaither says once eminent domain is approved, it will take six months to a year to find Hardy a place to live.

"I've already got a place to live," Hardy says. "They can look all they want - they'll never find another place like this. It's my home and there's no other place like it."

To contact the Governor email jeb.bush@myflorida.com, call 850-488-4441 or fax 850-487-0801.


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To: Diva Betsy Ross
What big truth is it that you think I am not seeing? That he could make a whole bunch of money from the sale of his property? What is it you think you have brought to the table here? My real issue with you is that you are being disruptive and that you are only here to hurl personal insults.

I see. You agree that it is alright for your side (AAA) to hurl personal insults and lies at me. You cannot find support for any of the lies about me that AAA posted yet you continue to 'agree' with AAA.

I guess you did not read my posts from the beginning and see who is the flame-thrower.

121 posted on 04/01/2004 11:55:22 AM PST by cinFLA
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Apparently you have an agenda here also and care naught for the truth.
122 posted on 04/01/2004 11:57:01 AM PST by cinFLA
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Read my post below and AAA's response and tell me who is the flamer!

My Post



He could buy this, build his house and still have 1.49 million left!

Florida Properties For Sale:
Florida, United States



Type of Property:
undeveloped land
recreational property
residential land
Irrigated: No
Residence: No
Total Acres: 30.00
Cropland Acres:0.00

Asking Price: $75,000

Price Per Acre: $2,500



Notes: 30 diverse, beautiful acres, commuting distance to Tallahassee, $75,000.


AAA Response



You know nothing. Nothing about the area and apparantly nothing about real estate in general. Seemingly nothing about American ideals or the Golden Rule either.
Land in some parts of Golden Gate Estates is going for over 30,000 dollars per acre. The only reason this particular area is de-valued is because the GRABBERS and their enablers(ie those like yourself) have been attempting to make it worthless for decades.

This started as an innocent program to buy some parcels for "conservation" purposes only from "willing sellers". It's turned into an agenda/power driven Cuban style land grab.

You advocate Jesse be moved to another part of the state (because he's in the way) as if he's some damned cow? Pathetic.

I have to ask, why are you people so interested in this eviroscam being sucessful? What's your agenda? One of you isn't even from Florida.

I knew the Greenie "Republican" lackies would show up.
123 posted on 04/01/2004 11:58:21 AM PST by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA
I have no agenda whatsoever anymore, but I care not for you, that's for certain.
124 posted on 04/01/2004 11:58:35 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: cinFLA
You.
125 posted on 04/01/2004 11:59:14 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: cinFLA
So what is your "big truth" that I don't see... Spell it out for me.
126 posted on 04/01/2004 12:00:03 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red ,white and blue!)
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To: cinFLA
InformedScary

Informed Cynical

Your posts 32 and 33 to lewislynn. Oh grow up and stop copying the same thing over and over and over....

127 posted on 04/01/2004 12:04:31 PM PST by TonyWojo
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To: untenured
Except that you left out the part about "public use." Does what you term this "environmental project" qualify (at least philosophically) as "public use"? What definition of "public use" would one need to make it qualify?

A fair question. Yes, I think "environmental projects" fall under the aegis of a "public use," in the sense that such projects are intended (in the abstract) to serve a public good. We can argue about whether this or that specific project furthers a public good, and you've made some good points about why this case is special and important.

If we accept the idea that a given environmental restoration project does serve a compelling public need, I think the use of eminent domain would probably be justified. The a priori assumption here seems to be that the project is not justified -- I'll remain uncommitted to any particular position on it.

(And thanks for discussing this in a civilized manner....)

128 posted on 04/01/2004 12:04:34 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
You know nothing. Nothing about the area and apparantly nothing about real estate in general. Seemingly nothing about American ideals or the Golden Rule either.

Personal, baseless attack on my integrity.

Land in some parts of Golden Gate Estates is going for over 30,000 dollars per acre. The only reason this particular area is de-valued is because the GRABBERS and their enablers(ie those like yourself) have been attempting to make it worthless for decades.

Personal insult;baseless lie.

This started as an innocent program to buy some parcels for "conservation" purposes only from "willing sellers". It's turned into an agenda/power driven Cuban style land grab.

You advocate Jesse be moved to another part of the state (because he's in the way) as if he's some damned cow? Pathetic.

Personal insult and baseless lie.

I have to ask, why are you people so interested in this eviroscam being sucessful? What's your agenda? One of you isn't even from Florida. Personal, baseless attack on my integrity. I knew the Greenie "Republican" lackies would show up.

129 posted on 04/01/2004 12:06:58 PM PST by cinFLA
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To: lewislynn
""revisit the issue only if the land is REALLY needed as the project proceeds."

Oh yea, let's not get in the way of the ever important government pipe dream "project"...What a stooge.

With the exception of an excavation pond underway, the property looks very much the same today as it did 28 years ago.
He's done more for the environment by doing nothing than you and your environmental nitwit friends will do by raping the land after he's gone."



I'm not an enviromentalist, certainly not in sense you are implying.

In fact, I am saying the state should not use emminent domain to take his property, but instead wait and see. If I were the state official involved. I would never have picked this fight.

Also, not every project labeled as environmental is wrong. The current Everglades project is designed to undo damage wrought by the previous attempt to control the Everglades. I think this is a worthy objective.

However, I do not know enough about the details of the present project to comment on whether or not they are going about it the right way.

You are right in that he has probably treated his land better than it would have been treated had the government held it.

However, when all is said and done it looks like the state is going to take his land and 1.5 million is a lot better then 900 Thousand any day of the week. He'll do better for his family to take the cash and move than to keep up a losing fight.











130 posted on 04/01/2004 12:09:31 PM PST by GreenLanternCorps (Just once I'd like to meet an alien menace that wasn't immune to bullets!!!)
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To: TonyWojo
"How to win friends and influence enemies"

by:

AAA Response





You know nothing. Nothing about the area and apparantly nothing about real estate in general. Seemingly nothing about American ideals or the Golden Rule either.
Land in some parts of Golden Gate Estates is going for over 30,000 dollars per acre. The only reason this particular area is de-valued is because the GRABBERS and their enablers(ie those like yourself) have been attempting to make it worthless for decades.

This started as an innocent program to buy some parcels for "conservation" purposes only from "willing sellers". It's turned into an agenda/power driven Cuban style land grab.

You advocate Jesse be moved to another part of the state (because he's in the way) as if he's some damned cow? Pathetic.

I have to ask, why are you people so interested in this eviroscam being sucessful? What's your agenda? One of you isn't even from Florida.

I knew the Greenie "Republican" lackies would show up.

131 posted on 04/01/2004 12:10:01 PM PST by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA
So , for the third time,what is your "big truth"?

BTW- I still agree with those statements, I drew similar conclusions to to your statement in your first post... what you have not spelled out for me, and it seems you are avoiding,is where you stand and what "truth I am not seeing".

132 posted on 04/01/2004 12:14:13 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red ,white and blue!)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
I don't think she is serving the good Gov all that well with an attitude like hers. I was quite polite, and I'm truly a supporter of Gov. Bush.

But I'm sure going to be watching this one!
133 posted on 04/01/2004 12:14:57 PM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (A $15 a month donation is a lot cheaper than our crappy liberal newspaper is each month!)
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To: cinFLA
Yawn.

134 posted on 04/01/2004 12:14:58 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
Show where my post supports the following statement by AAA! Particularly, show what I said to deserve the personal insult.

"You advocate Jesse be moved to another part of the state (because he's in the way) as if he's some damned cow? Pathetic."
135 posted on 04/01/2004 12:18:27 PM PST by cinFLA
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
To: Diva Betsy Ross
Been here long cin?
Longer than you have, tsetse.


115 posted on 04/01/2004 11:49:34 AM PST by cinFLA
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Diva Betsy Ross
Since Nov 18, 2000


cinFLA
Since Nov 11, 2000

Bwahahahahahahaa!
136 posted on 04/01/2004 12:18:39 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
I agree. I support Jeb Bush, I think he is a good buy and just needs to hear how his supporters feel. That is the way our system works, right?

I believe in property rights... and I am sure there is more to this story... my point is I don't care.. find a different solution.. I don't want to live in a country where we treat our vets like this.

That is my bottom line.

137 posted on 04/01/2004 12:19:09 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red ,white and blue!)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
why are you people so interested in this eviroscam being sucessful?

Please show where I posted any support of anything on this issue.

138 posted on 04/01/2004 12:20:07 PM PST by cinFLA
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
"because the GRABBERS and their enablers(ie those like yourself) have been attempting to make it worthless for decades. "

Please show where I am an "enabler" as AAA has said.
139 posted on 04/01/2004 12:21:46 PM PST by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA
For the fourth time. What is the "big truth" I am not seeing? Do you think you are going to confuse me.. bait me or just wear me out?

I need you to spell it out for me. That means no matter what you accuse me of I will not get off this point...

140 posted on 04/01/2004 12:22:50 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red ,white and blue!)
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