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To: lentulusgracchus
Sovereigns denounce treaties and abrogate laws all the time. They revoke constitutions if they please. Your attempt wilfully to bind your interlocutors with a faithless argument notwithstanding, the point's been made.

Wrong, we're a nation of laws and our Constitution has never been revoked.

Furthermore, the obvious bad faith and name-calling of your deliberate mischaracterizations of my argument about the People's powers as sovereign disqualifies you from further discussion -- of anything. You're a renegade and a troll, irresponsible, and faithless, and you speak with forked tongue. Go away.

Again we're a nation of laws sanctioned by God in Romans.

1,515 posted on 03/24/2004 11:54:16 PM PST by #3Fan (Kerry to POW-MIA activists: "You'll wish you'd never been born.". Link on my homepage.)
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To: #3Fan
Wrong, we're a nation of laws and our Constitution has never been revoked.

Wrong again, we're a nation of compacted Peoples, and our laws are our toolkit, and the Constitution our partnership agreement. And yes, the Constitution has never been "revoked" -- but, fallacy of distraction, you knew that wasn't the argument, didn't you? The argument was, several States convened their Peoples, resumed their powers as Sovereign, and withdrew from the Union by the same way they came in -- by ratification convention, or, as the language would have it, by secession conventions, which were sovereign acts not subject to review by federal judges -- or by you.

Secession wasn't "legal" -- it was supralegal, i.e., it was transacted in a sphere above the Constitution, at the level of the People and sovereignty. But you slothfully refuse to get it, and you refuse to take a telling point that's been made against you.

Your attempt to find some Biblical metaphysical authority by which the Government can transcend the authority of its creator is bogus. Notice that I'm not calling you a liar, as you like to call everyone who disagrees with you, as you pule and mewl about people's responding badly to your taunts and ragging and fallacious bullhockey.

But then, I've told you you're toast, and you're toast. You're not rockin' anyone here.

1,522 posted on 03/25/2004 12:29:11 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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