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To: #3Fan
Wrong, we're a nation of laws and our Constitution has never been revoked.

Wrong again, we're a nation of compacted Peoples, and our laws are our toolkit, and the Constitution our partnership agreement. And yes, the Constitution has never been "revoked" -- but, fallacy of distraction, you knew that wasn't the argument, didn't you? The argument was, several States convened their Peoples, resumed their powers as Sovereign, and withdrew from the Union by the same way they came in -- by ratification convention, or, as the language would have it, by secession conventions, which were sovereign acts not subject to review by federal judges -- or by you.

Secession wasn't "legal" -- it was supralegal, i.e., it was transacted in a sphere above the Constitution, at the level of the People and sovereignty. But you slothfully refuse to get it, and you refuse to take a telling point that's been made against you.

Your attempt to find some Biblical metaphysical authority by which the Government can transcend the authority of its creator is bogus. Notice that I'm not calling you a liar, as you like to call everyone who disagrees with you, as you pule and mewl about people's responding badly to your taunts and ragging and fallacious bullhockey.

But then, I've told you you're toast, and you're toast. You're not rockin' anyone here.

1,522 posted on 03/25/2004 12:29:11 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Wrong again, we're a nation of compacted Peoples, and our laws are our toolkit, and the Constitution our partnership agreement. And yes, the Constitution has never been "revoked" -- but, fallacy of distraction, you knew that wasn't the argument, didn't you? The argument was, several States convened their Peoples, resumed their powers as Sovereign, and withdrew from the Union by the same way they came in -- by ratification convention, or, as the language would have it, by secession conventions, which were sovereign acts not subject to review by federal judges -- or by you.

Wrong, it was agreed how states would prove their acts and Congress has the power to decide how.

Secession wasn't "legal" -- it was supralegal, i.e., it was transacted in a sphere above the Constitution, at the level of the People and sovereignty. But you slothfully refuse to get it, and you refuse to take a telling point that's been made against you.

I simply am reading the law as agreed to by all the states when they ratified and they agreed to allow Congress to guide the process.

Your attempt to find some Biblical metaphysical authority by which the Government can transcend the authority of its creator is bogus.

Romans is not bogus.

Notice that I'm not calling you a liar, as you like to call everyone who disagrees with you, as you pule and mewl about people's responding badly to your taunts and ragging and fallacious bullhockey.

Out and out lies have been told here about me. Nothing new for a neoconfederate to lie though.

But then, I've told you you're toast, and you're toast. You're not rockin' anyone here.

I know I'm not changing your minds. All you guys are so brainwashed by the one-sided bull you engulf yourself in that you've lost all perception of reality. I'm simply countering falsehoods.

1,530 posted on 03/25/2004 12:38:38 AM PST by #3Fan (Kerry to POW-MIA activists: "You'll wish you'd never been born.". Link on my homepage.)
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