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An opposing view: Descendant of black Confederate soldier speaks at museum
Thomasville Times-Enterprise ^ | 24 Feb 2004 | Mark Lastinger

Posted on 02/25/2004 11:52:26 AM PST by 4CJ

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To: nolu chan
See post #1881.
1,901 posted on 03/30/2004 12:19:54 PM PST by #3Fan (Kerry to POW-MIA activists: "You'll wish you'd never been born.". Link on my homepage.)
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To: nolu chan
See post #1895.
1,902 posted on 03/30/2004 12:21:53 PM PST by #3Fan (Kerry to POW-MIA activists: "You'll wish you'd never been born.". Link on my homepage.)
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To: #3Fan
sherman was NOT a great anything, except WAR CRIMINAL! MASS RAPE, TORTURE & MURDER of helpless civilians is nothing but a WAR CRIME spree.

free dixie,sw

1,903 posted on 03/30/2004 2:12:08 PM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: #3Fan
i've never asked ANYONE to bann you.

i simply prophesied that your HATEfilled/RACIST attitude would get you banned.

the use of smallcase letters is a COURTSEY to our tribal traditions & beliefs.

if you are incapable of understanding a concept that simple, you are also STUPID, in addition to being a FOOL/BIGOT!

free dixie,sw

1,904 posted on 03/30/2004 2:15:28 PM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: #3Fan
NOPE! i said that 2 people had complained about your evident racism.

FRANKLY, i want you here to beat up on & abuse, (it is likely a character flaw of mine to enjoy exposing the RACISM of damnyankees & fools!), thus i wouldn't ask anyone to do so.

free dixie,sw

1,905 posted on 03/30/2004 2:18:34 PM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: #3Fan
what we ARE finding out is how overall DUMB you are.

RAVE ON. you too serve the dixie LIBERTY cause.<P.free the southland,sw

1,906 posted on 03/30/2004 2:19:49 PM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: #3Fan
what we ARE finding out is how overall DUMB you are.

RAVE ON. you too serve the dixie LIBERTY cause.

free the southland,sw

1,907 posted on 03/30/2004 2:20:02 PM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: #3Fan
rotflmRao!

RAVE ON!

free dixie,sw

1,908 posted on 03/30/2004 2:20:49 PM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
So... tell us how you really feel :D
1,909 posted on 03/30/2004 4:03:13 PM PST by cyborg (troll on a stick)
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To: #3Fan; stand watie
As did you for captial letters. Have you forgotten?

stand watie did not ask to mods to reprimand you. I did.

You were politely asked by stand watie to refrain from capiltalizing his screen name. You refused. I politely asked to you refrain, to which you refused. If you were native American you would understand. I had hoped that you simply had a shred of decency within you, but this thread is ample evidence of the lack of the same.

It's one thing to debate in an open forum, the facts will speak for themselves, but in all honesty, it is hard to find anything to like in someone who considers the rape, sexual assault and sodomization of southern women and children to be justified, and that destroying their homes, crops and livestock, the theft of all their valuables to be expedient as war measures and not as the war crimes they truly are.

Again, I ask simply that you refrain from capitalizing his screen name. It's a cultural thing, one that means much to those of us privledged to claim native American ancestry.

respectfully,

4CJ

1,910 posted on 03/30/2004 6:19:52 PM PST by 4CJ (||) OUR sins put Him on that cross - HIS love for us kept Him there. (||)
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To: #3Fan; stand watie
Secondly, before it is even brought up, stand watie never asked me to hit the abuse button. He and I might swap 2 messages a year. What I did was because I find you continued abuse to be offensive.

He has stated it was offensive to him, and it is offensive to me. What you have done is a great dishonour to stand watie - the Freeper - and to Stand Watie - the Confederate General.

I did not ask for you to be banned, I specifically requested otherwise - that the mods would simply ask you to respect his wishes in this regard. I wish that you were man enough to do the same.

1,911 posted on 03/30/2004 6:27:00 PM PST by 4CJ (||) OUR sins put Him on that cross - HIS love for us kept Him there. (||)
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To: stand watie
sherman was NOT a great anything, except WAR CRIMINAL! MASS RAPE, TORTURE & MURDER of helpless civilians is nothing but a WAR CRIME spree.

Confederate troops did these things at about the same rate as Union troops and to their own people, so was Lee a war criminal?

1,912 posted on 03/31/2004 12:00:29 AM PST by #3Fan (Kerry to POW-MIA activists: "You'll wish you'd never been born.". Link on my homepage.)
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To: stand watie
i've never asked ANYONE to bann you. i simply prophesied that your HATEfilled/RACIST attitude would get you banned.

Same thing.

the use of smallcase letters is a COURTSEY to our tribal traditions & beliefs. if you are incapable of understanding a concept that simple, you are also STUPID, in addition to being a FOOL/BIGOT

You just cry over silliness.

1,913 posted on 03/31/2004 12:01:51 AM PST by #3Fan (Kerry to POW-MIA activists: "You'll wish you'd never been born.". Link on my homepage.)
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To: stand watie
NOPE! i said that 2 people had complained about your evident racism.

After hearing your crying about something as silly as capital letters.

FRANKLY, i want you here to beat up on & abuse, (it is likely a character flaw of mine to enjoy exposing the RACISM of damnyankees & fools!), thus i wouldn't ask anyone to do so.

Your posts called for it, two people obliged apparently.

1,914 posted on 03/31/2004 12:03:33 AM PST by #3Fan (Kerry to POW-MIA activists: "You'll wish you'd never been born.". Link on my homepage.)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
stand watie did not ask to mods to reprimand you. I did. You were politely asked by stand watie to refrain from capiltalizing his screen name. You refused. I politely asked to you refrain, to which you refused. If you were native American you would understand. I had hoped that you simply had a shred of decency within you, but this thread is ample evidence of the lack of the same.

Whatever dude. Anyone that thinks that capital letters is racist is out of touch with reality and is taking PC way too far. I'm American and Americans use capital letters. I amazed you guys can't see how silly your complaints are. Pressing abuse for capital letters...hilarious.

It's one thing to debate in an open forum, the facts will speak for themselves, but in all honesty, it is hard to find anything to like in someone who considers the rape, sexual assault and sodomization of southern women and children to be justified, and that destroying their homes, crops and livestock, the theft of all their valuables to be expedient as war measures and not as the war crimes they truly are.

I find Sherman's tactics necessary to win the war and save lives. Rustbucket (a person on your side of this argument) said that Sherman called for his men to not commit these crimes, but some will and there's no way to stop it...just as some confederate soldiers committed these crimes against their own people.

Again, I ask simply that you refrain from capitalizing his screen name. It's a cultural thing, one that means much to those of us privledged to claim native American ancestry.

Bull, it's nowhere on the internet that I've seen. He's as white as I am, I've seen his picture, he's just claiming victim status so he can whine, PC that he is. Stand Watie. Boo!

respectfully,...

You could at least be honest. You have no respect.

1,915 posted on 03/31/2004 12:15:42 AM PST by #3Fan (Kerry to POW-MIA activists: "You'll wish you'd never been born.". Link on my homepage.)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
Secondly, before it is even brought up, stand watie never asked me to hit the abuse button.

He did out in the open. You and another obliged.

He and I might swap 2 messages a year.

I don't blame you there.

What I did was because I find you continued abuse to be offensive.

Abuse?! Capital letters is abuse?! Talk about PC. Is English road signs also abuse? Should we go all Spanish so we don't offend Mexican immigrants? Should we teach ebonics in school so we don't offend Jesse Jackass types? You guys have lost touch with reality. Anyone that's afraid of capital letters needs to get with the program and realize that this is America.

He has stated it was offensive to him, and it is offensive to me.

Who cares. You're just being silly to whine about captital letters.

What you have done is a great dishonour to stand watie - the Freeper...

In case you haven't noticed, Stand Watie the freeper has done nothing but call me every name in the book since he got here, and long before I started teasing him about his weird phobia.

...- and to Stand Watie - the Confederate General.

You guys show respect for Lincoln and Sherman, and I will for your heros. Can you even show me a link proving what you say about capital letters?

I did not ask for you to be banned, I specifically requested otherwise - that the mods would simply ask you to respect his wishes in this regard. I wish that you were man enough to do the same.

Stand Watie has said terrible things about Union soldiers, Lincoln, Sherman, northerners, Eisenhower. I don't respect people who don't respect others and don't give a rat's behind what offends him, especially something that breaks American traditions, and capital letters is the part of the American way of life. From his first post he has been personally attacking me, unprovoked at first. Why should I care about his silly phobias?

1,916 posted on 03/31/2004 12:38:36 AM PST by #3Fan (Kerry to POW-MIA activists: "You'll wish you'd never been born.". Link on my homepage.)
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To: #3Fan
[#3Fan] #1786 Everyone has lied in their life. But is everyone considered a liar?
[#3Fan] #1880 Is everyone who has ever lied considered a liar?
[#3Fan] #1894 I don't see the word "liar". Just because someone has lied, it doesn't earn them the label of "liar".
[#3Fan] See post #1894.

Your pathetic sniveling only has #3merit in #3world.

I was not talking about everyone. I was talking about #3Fan.

In #3Fan #1740, -YOU- said to Gianni: "Nolu brought up the word "liar" first IIRC"

As I proved, and anyone can verify by reviewing the first 151 messages on this thread, the word "liar" was first brought up by none other than #3Fan.

#151 #3Fan to Gianni: "So deception by omission is your game when you don't "outright lie. (By "you" I mean neoconfederates)"

1,917 posted on 03/31/2004 1:15:50 AM PST by nolu chan
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To: #3Fan
You read words written by W.E.B. DuBois and declared those words, "Proof that neoconfederates are full of hate." [#1565]

The words were published in "The Crisis," a publication of the NAACP, by one of the founding fathers of the NAACP, who had a Ph.D. from Harvard. The words were spoken by one of the most respected Black authors and thinkers.

#3Fan said those words prove the speaker to be a neoconfederate full of hate.

Weasel like Bill Clinton if you choose, but the documented evidentiary proof remains.
1,918 posted on 03/31/2004 1:16:59 AM PST by nolu chan
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To: #3Fan
Read your own -RACIST- posts.

1,919 posted on 03/31/2004 1:18:04 AM PST by nolu chan
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To: #3Fan
[nolu chan] #1870 Perhaps before accusing someone of slander you should have made some slight effort to find out what the word means.

[#3Fan] #1882 I did. :^)

No. Actually you did not. Had you made even a slight effort to find out what the word means, you would have learned that it is a legal impossibility to slander anyone with written words. What did you do? Look it up in #3Dictionary?

1,920 posted on 03/31/2004 1:41:51 AM PST by nolu chan
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