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Dissension In The Ranks
American News Reel ^ | 1/31/04 | Doug Thompson

Posted on 01/31/2004 12:41:27 PM PST by jimkress

Had dinner with an old friend last night, a long-time Republican political operative who – in 1981 – talked me into taking a sabbatical from journalism and going to Washington as a press secretary to Congressman Paul Findley.

He’s been a Republican all his life. Grew up in a GOP family. Served more than one term as a county chairman as well as a Republican National Committeeman.

So it surprised me when he opened the dinner table conversation with: “I’m not going to vote for George W. Bush in November. I may vote for John Kerry if he’s the Democratic nominee.”

Strange things can happen in this world. Joe Gibbs can come out of retirement to coach the Washington Redskins one more time. Hell, the Carolina Panthers might even win the Super Bowl. But when a lifelong Republican tells me he might vote for John Kerry, I wait for a voice to start saying “you’re entering another dimension…next stop – The Twilight Zone.”

“I’m a Republican because I believe in less government, of letting states make the decisions that affect our lives,” he said. “I believe in a balanced budget. But my party no longer believes in any of these things. I can’t be a part of what I think is destroying this country.”

His comments echo what I have been hearing after three weeks on the campaign trail. Republicans are fed up with an administration that has created the largest federal bureaucracy ever, with record deficits and with increasing federal power and control over our lives.

But they’re not just fed up with George W. Bush, they’re fed up with a Republican-controlled Congress that passed the largest, most pork-laden transportation bill in history, that abandoned its promise to impose term limits and that broke most of the promises of the 1994 “Contract With America” that gave them control of Capitol Hill in the first place.

My friend’s theory: “You know the old bromide that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely? Well, my party has taken it step further. Absolute power leads to madness. It makes me, a Republican, long for Democrats back in control. That is pure madness but I can’t help it.”

I’ve been around politics as a journalist or an operative for nearly 40 years and the dissension within the GOP is the worst I’ve ever seen. At a Republican caucus earlier this week, California Republican Congressman Chris Cox headed a group of conservative members who told Speaker of the House Denny Hastert that a GOP Congress was being undermined by Bush's actions in the White House. One member reportedly said a GOP Congress could deal more effectively with a Democrat in the White House than they can with Bush.

“At least we know what to expect from a Democratic President,” he said.


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To: tet68
Well all I can say to this as a registered Republican who has voted straight ticket for years.. I can't disagree. It saddens me that I as a Republican and a conservative, I feel I have been duped.
141 posted on 01/31/2004 2:00:42 PM PST by Zipporah (Write inTancredo in 2004)
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To: arete
The only requirement is is desire to take our country back from the socialists.

And don't forget the ones masquerading as members of the "conservative" Party.

142 posted on 01/31/2004 2:00:42 PM PST by StoneColdGOP (McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
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To: onyx
"AND this is still January, albeit, the last day of January."

Yes, it is. And, Bush hasn't started campaigning yet, not to mention he's sitting on more dough than the dem pretenders plus anyone else campaigning, combined, could ever hope to see.

143 posted on 01/31/2004 2:00:46 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: arete
Ah...no. Give me a real candidate with a real chance and maybe. No, the Republican party isn't NWO. The president isn't, and I'm voting for him. Stereotypes are bad.
144 posted on 01/31/2004 2:00:48 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: tet68
LOLOL........and I had dinner with a long time democrat last night and he told me he could hardly wait to vote for George W. Bush.
145 posted on 01/31/2004 2:01:09 PM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: jimkress
Imo, the CP has some good planks in it's platform, but your [sic] numbers aren't enough even to notice, let alone take seriously.

Btw, and who has that picture of the "Oh $hit, not this crap again" guy? Mr. Thompson hasn't fared well on FR lately.

5.56mm

146 posted on 01/31/2004 2:01:09 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: RnMomof7
VOTE THIRD PARTY OR NO ONE AT ALL>>>>ELECT A DEMOCRAT!
147 posted on 01/31/2004 2:01:25 PM PST by MEG33 (God bless our armed forces)
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To: Texas Federalist
One thing that bothers me about the platform is the opposition to the Iraq war.

We were lied to and manipulated into that war. There are probably any number of reasons, but we don't know what they are. There were no WMD's no connection with bin Laden or terrorism.

Considering who flew the planes, we should have attacked Saudi Arabia, but Bush and his family have really close ties there.

Our troops should be the hell out of there tonight, and let the whole firggin' thing collapse of its own weight.

And while you're at it, bring 'em home from Korea, Germany, and every other damned place and start protectiog our own borders.

148 posted on 01/31/2004 2:01:32 PM PST by Beenliedto (A Free Stater getting ready to pack my bags!)
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To: Texas Federalist
One thing that bothers me about the platform is the opposition to the Iraq war. I wish there were a third party option that supported Bush's foreign policy, while embracing the Constitution Party's domestic platform.

Don't worry about Iraq. No way we can get out of the swamp now. It'll be sucking the taxpayer dry for a long long time.

Richard W.

149 posted on 01/31/2004 2:02:35 PM PST by arete (Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.)
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To: M Kehoe
You mean this?
151 posted on 01/31/2004 2:02:53 PM PST by Neets (Complainers change their complaints, but they never reduce the amount of time spent in complaining.~)
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To: xsmommy
Can't break off from the Republicans until the Democrat party is dead.
152 posted on 01/31/2004 2:03:58 PM PST by stands2reason ("I guess in the long run, Lenin was right."---Don Joe, 1-31-04)
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To: jimkress
I'm upset with some of Bush's policies too but we have been making a dent in commie/liberalism.If you vote for a democrat we will have to go back to square one on everything.Kerry is willing just like clinton to sell us out to euro-trash/u.n..
153 posted on 01/31/2004 2:05:05 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: arete
You and John Kerry,Howard Dean agree... Terrorism is overblown.We should make it a criminal matter.We just need to arrest Bin Ladin.
154 posted on 01/31/2004 2:05:16 PM PST by MEG33 (God bless our armed forces)
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VANITY: The best way to keep America a sovereign free nation is to keep the Democrats out of power!
155 posted on 01/31/2004 2:05:19 PM PST by Momaw Nadon (Goals for 2004: Re-elect President Bush, over 60 Republicans in the Senate, and a Republican House.)
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To: dixiechick2000
Yes, it is. And, Bush hasn't started campaigning yet, not to mention he's sitting on more dough than the dem pretenders plus anyone else campaigning, combined, could ever hope to see.

Right you are. The so-called, (self-described) "base" that's abandoning him have never really been with him or us. We're pragmatists and winners. They bitch from the sideline.

156 posted on 01/31/2004 2:06:09 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: Neets
Yeah, that one. You're quick.

You know if I wasn't married...

;^)

5.56mm

157 posted on 01/31/2004 2:06:39 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: tet68
"I have my issues with President Bush, but he has shown the leadership we need in this WAR."

Yes, the "war"....

But what kind of "leadership" is he displaying by knowingly undermining the morale and confidence of the troops?? And by "troops" I mean his rank and file conservative constituency...

Is there ANY excuse whatsoever for a GOP President 270 days away from an election to announce his lame-brained "plan" to award illegal invaders Amnesty, while still knowingly ignoring the security loophole breach at the Mexican border?

The good news? At least Dubya's NOT a General.

158 posted on 01/31/2004 2:08:02 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: onyx
HO-HO-HO. So now yall are "grassroots" Republicans, rather than "true or real" conservatives.

Merry Christmas to you too... It's been my experience that the overwhelming majority of grassroots Republicans ARE the conservatives, while the "moderates" tend to believe spending money and hiring slick consultants is the way to win elections.

Yall are not Republican at all, and you're not the base either.

If that is the case, then tell me why so many Republican candidates do poorly and lose elections when the conservatives feel abandoned and stay at home or vote 3rd party? (ie: Perot '92, etc.)

This election is too important for your petty grievances. Try to see the big picture: SCOTUS appointments and WOT. A democrat presidnet dooms both.

I hardly think that things like granting drivers licenses to illegal aliens and offering them an amnesty qualifies as a petty grievance. When California's finanical back is ready to break over spending on these people, it's about issue #1 on most radar screens. Yes, the Supreme Court and War on Terror are important. The Court and other judicial posts federally would be secure NOW if the Senate limp-wrists would ACT like the majority they are and tell tofu-skinned dudes like Frist and Hatch to step aside. And tell me, if Bush is serious about the War on Terror, when will bombs start falling on Riyadh and Mecca?

159 posted on 01/31/2004 2:09:24 PM PST by StoneColdGOP (McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
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To: MEG33; arete
You and John Kerry,Howard Dean agree... Terrorism is overblown.We should make it a criminal matter.We just need to arrest Bin Ladin.

And then turn him (binLaden) over to the UN and onto the World Court in Belguim. Yeah, that's the number.

160 posted on 01/31/2004 2:09:24 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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