Posted on 01/03/2004 10:12:45 PM PST by Ian McGreggor
Edited on 01/04/2004 10:24:01 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
CRAWFORD, Tex., Jan. 3 -- President Bush will propose protections for the Social Security taxes paid by the workers who would come into the country under massive changes to immigration laws he plans to announce on Wednesday, Republican officials said Saturday.
Bush's plan would make it possible for such workers from Mexico and perhaps other countries to collect retirement benefits without being penalized by their home countries for the years they spent working in the United States, the officials said.
Officials began releasing details of Bush's plan shortly before Christmas and provided new details over the weekend. The officials said Bush's plan will contain a new system to help workers who want to enter from Mexico or other countries if they have jobs waiting for them. It also includes a mechanism for some undocumented residents to continue working in the United States and get on a path to legal status.
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I don't know if this dim bulb in the White House really wants to abolish the USA in favor of a merged state with Mexico, or if he just doesn't care or understand what happens after he panders his way to a second term.
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See now --- your whole proposal just fell flat --- you asked one thing from Mexico --- you know the Mexican government will not agree to any changes. Those corrupt laws of theirs suit the few in charge just fine ---- they're getting filthy rich -- they like it just how it is --- they don't intend to give anything. Say "oil for illegals" and they start frothing at the mouth.
My Congressman, Wally Herger, is NOT for Dem rats. Besides, Dem rats want to include all ILLEGALS not just Mexicans.
The president proposes, the Congress disposes.
One way or the other Congressman Herger will hear my opinions on this and so will White House personnel monitoring public opinion.
Of course they did --- an American would have to be paid $5.15 an hour, given certain overtime benefits. Working Americans tend to like private insurance, illegals don't expect or try for that. Walmart is a good example --- those jobs weren't paying overtime, they weren't paying minimum wage --- it's doubtful they ever advertised for Americans because they wouldn't want to be discovered and reported breaking the wage and other employment law.
They don't really go down to Mexico to recruit because they offered the going rate for a job and intended to obey all the labor laws.
See now --- your whole proposal just fell flat --- you asked one thing from Mexico --- you know the Mexican government will not agree to any changes.
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Ok. One argument per poster.
But 'know' that you are buying into the media sell WE do not want those jobs, it is a DU myth!!!
Except that many employers say they cannot get Americans to fill these jobs. But I guess they are all lying, right?
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I never said it was, I usually avoid these threads because of the irrational posters who resort to name calling and bashing Mexicans, so I haven't followed your posts on this matter. But if my conversations with you on other matters are an example of your contributions to this issue, I'm quite sure you and I think much alike on the problem of illegal immigration.
My problem with these threads is that they are based on speculation from primarily liberal journalists at first, then afterwords by some concerned conservative journalists reacting to what the Liberals speculate will be in a proposal that quotes no one in the Bush Administration. Sure we can send faxes to the White House and Send emails to our elected Representatives, voicing our concerns, but to condemn this administration or anyone else based on the vague claims made by liberals at the NYT's or some other liberal rag, is playing right into their hands
I believe there are other aspects to our Republic that they are fighting for. Borders, language, and culture come to mind.
Those no longer matter to mainstream Republicans?
Thank goodness Ted Kennedy penned the 1965 chain migration act and the government stopped enforcing immigration law. Now we finally have those things.
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Do you believe those Walmart janitorial jobs were ever opened to Americans at a wage that Americans can legally work for? I very much doubt they were ever adverstized in the paper or on any job board for Americans to inquire on them.
I know of several illegals working around here --- there is no evidence that a "help wanted" sign or ad was ever posted any where for the jobs they have.
You've gotta point. And if these companies don't advertise or offer these jobs to Americans, in order to avoid complying with fair wage and employment laws..then they should be prosecuted.
But I still can't blame the poor immigrants who are taken advantage of by these companies for "stealing" jobs from Americans. These people are living a hard life and are just trying to make it.
I can't understand the resentment by some posters here.
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